On 13-Jul-06, at 9:29 AM, Jonah H. Harris wrote:

On 7/12/06, Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't really think anyone would want to run both, but
> that's just my opinion.

On what grounds do you not think that?

Too much Java overhead on one database and PL/J isn't that stable.
I've run into several crash problems with it before.

PL/J uses an external JVM, PL/Java one that is running in the
backend process.  (Or maybe it was the other way 'round, I'm too
tired to remember tonight.)

While tired, you're still correct :)

That's a really fundamental difference that makes them suited for very different applications; not to mention the resulting different licensing scenarios.

Not really, both require a JVM so the same licensing still applies.

The points that have been made in this thread about PL/J not being
actively maintained are important, but other than that objection,
I can see no reason that PL/J wouldn't have an equal claim to inclusion
in core.

I'm being objective here, and PL/J is not nearly as stable or
well-maintained... that means a lot to me or to anyone who looks at
using a Java PL.
Doesn't EDB sponsor pl/java ? I would think that might make you somewhat subjective ?

That being said, pl-j is not as mature as pl/java, however I don't believe that is a valid reason for exclusion.
Open source projects by their nature gain maturity by exposure.

Do we intend to ship both and say that one is less
capable?  Have you used either of them?  Don't get me wrong, I like
PL/J in concept... but it's just not even close to production-ready
yet.  I know of no one using PL/J in production and about 40 or so
people using PL/Java.

Perhaps more, because it gives us an extra layer of insulation
from JVM licensing questions.

Again, I don't believe so. I'd like to hear how Dave thinks so, though.

I didn't say this

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