Sure, but enough of Smalltalk flavor to not want to go into C. For specific plugins, this is really cool to have.
Phil On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Clément Bera <bera.clem...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > Note that slang is a subset of smalltalk. The Slang compiler does not > allow to compile smalltalk to C. It allows to compile a smalltalk with > restricted message sends and classes to C. > > 2014-09-15 13:28 GMT+02:00 Thierry Goubier <thierry.goub...@gmail.com>: > >> Hi Phil, >> >> thanks for the update on Slang to C. Allways significant to have that. >> > >> Two open questions: >> >> - would a slang to x86 asm via NativeBoost be doable / a nice target? >> > > Yes it would be interesting. However, by having a Slang to C compiler, > we're platform-independent, we can compile the C code to x86, x86_64 and > ARM quite easily (some part of the VM are already processor dependent, but > not so much). Targeting direct machine code implies evolving the Slang > compiler for each new assembly code we support. It sounds like a lot of > engineering work compared to our resources and the gain. > >> >> - would targetting LLVM-IR be of interest? >> >> If you compile the C code with Clang instead of gcc, which starts to be > the case because of the lack of support for gcc in the latest Mac OS X, you > are already using LLVM IR because Clang uses it. As the VM use the GNU C > extensions to improve performance, I do not think that targeting directly > the LLVM IR would greatly improve performance. So it sounds like quite some > engineering work for no gain. > > However, I think Ronie was interested in doing such work. If he succeeds > and reports performance improvement, then we can consider using his > compiler to compile the VM. > > >> Thierry >> >> 2014-09-15 12:29 GMT+02:00 p...@highoctane.be <p...@highoctane.be>: >> >> Slang has been externalized by Pavel. So, Smalltalk to C works. >>> >>> Works nicely, even if there were a few glitches (like code generated >>> twice at one point). >>> Nothing unfixable, I got the beast working. >>> >>> Allows for things like: write Slang, generate C, compile into DLL, load >>> DLL, run C code. All in a single shot. >>> >>> PavelKrivanek/CCodeGenerator on SmalltalkHub (which looks like super >>> slow/zombified). >>> >>> Phil >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Santiago Bragagnolo < >>> santiagobragagn...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I may be wrong, but I think the closest thing out there is Slang. Is >>>> the pseudo smalltalk used to develop the VM. >>>> >>>> Also there is a project for generating C for arduino, (a project >>>> related with EToys), but i am not sure about how complete is. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2014-09-15 11:04 GMT+02:00 kilon alios <kilon.al...@gmail.com>: >>>> >>>>> Is there a way to convert code from pharo to c or c++ ? Does pettit >>>>> parser or other parsers offer such support ? >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
