> On 27 Nov 2014, at 14:43, p...@highoctane.be wrote: > > At times, mczs still come handy for some merges... > > And Smalltalkhub is good as a safe heaven for collecting packages that are > otherwise scattered all around.
nothing that a real catalog/centralised package manager alla npm/apt-get/etc cannot do it. using a package manager as a catalog feels to me like hammering a screw. > > Is there a reason why Smalltalkhub would not stay working nicely? because we do not have the strength/willing to maintain it. and each day we are: farther from “state of the art” source management, and farther from state of the art javascript, etc. (which is the reason why sthub > Are we talking about using bigger boxes here? Or is it a deeper issue? keeping up-to-date a system like sthub is a lot of work, and takes a lot of time. personally, I prefer way more to spend my time in things that will have a real impact in the community (like having a modern vm) than lose it trying constantly to catch up with what others (with a lot more resources) already did. each time I start a sub-project, my first question is: “this stuff will have a multiplier effect in the community?” and second question is “do we have to doit from scratch, or can we take advantage of other projects?”. As a maintainer, and being conscious of our limitations, this are the driving forces I find positive to work. (and of course, most times I do not start sub-projects at all, I just jump into a burning place and try to do my best to fix it… not always very successfully :P) so, coming back to less “philosophical” question: 1) do we need a state-of-the-art source code management? YES. 2) do we want to spend the few manpower we have on running into a worst solution of what is already around? I think no. Esteban > > Phil > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 1:52 PM, kilon alios <kilon.al...@gmail.com > <mailto:kilon.al...@gmail.com>> wrote: > I forgot to add that git comes with excellent gui clients that are far more > powerful and elegant that what Pharo offers currently . > > If you are user of emacs there is magit , really powerful gui client and very > popular among emacs users. > > For gui client I have used quite a lot SmartGit > > http://www.syntevo.com/smartgit/ <http://www.syntevo.com/smartgit/> > > and recently a fellow python developer introduced me to Sourcetree > > http://www.sourcetreeapp.com/ <http://www.sourcetreeapp.com/> > > Both are free for non commercial projects. They require a license for > commercial use but they are relative cheap. They come with diff tools, easy > commit access , branching, merging and tons of stuff to make life easier for > complex scenarios and they integrate well with bitbucket and other online > repositories besides github. > > But even from command line there is a lot of room for automation by creating > bash scripts to make commits one step process. >
