Gary, I suppose I could suggest replacing some of the button bars with more compact iconic toolbars. Things like debugging over, into, etc. lend themselves well to that. The world menu will not make much sense if we ever get one window per shell.
The biggest concern I have right now is speed. I'm not saying Pharo is too slow; I'm simply admitting that I do not know whether it is fast enough for some of the things I want to do. That leads to a question I should ask: Gwenael, without asking you to do anything just yet, is your updated parser in a state that it can installed and used? How hard is that to do? Would it be easy for you? Are you able and willing to make it available? What would I have to give up? It's a long story, but tripping over underscores is a problem for a couple of things I would like to do. Bill Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 Email: bsch...@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 273-6785 FAX: (352) 392-7029 >>> gazzagu...@btinternet.com 02/07/09 11:19 AM >>> Really no other gripes? Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Chambers" <gazzagu...@btinternet.com> To: <Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Call for UI gripes On Vista with each theme I get: Watery2 5200 SoftSqueak 4651.6 StandardSqueak 4082.8 Vistary 5378.4 Watery 4979.6 StandardSqueak compares relatively favourably with Squeak 3.9. Nicer looking widgets do take more cpu of course ;-) With FreeType and Arial fonts: Watery2 6621.6 SoftSqueak 5871.4 StandardSqueak 5391.0 Vistary 7081.8 Watery 6521.8 Goes to show that you can't get something for nothing! Regards, Gary. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stéphane Ducasse" <stephane.duca...@inria.fr> To: <Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Call for UI gripes > on mac os 9.0 :) > > Stef > > On Jan 31, 2009, at 1:29 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > >> 2009/1/31 Michael Rueger <m.rue...@acm.org>: >>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Adrian Lienhard <a...@netstyle.ch> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> >>>> On my machine I get: >>>> >>>> Squeak 3.9: 3800ms >>>> Pharo #084: 2950ms >>>> Pharo #213: 5200ms >>>> >>>> #084 is before Polymorph was added and #213 is the most recent >>>> version. >>>> >>>> BTW, with OB: 8590ms. >>> >>> ouch... >>> >>> any obvious hotspots? >>> >> >> i think its not very fair to compare OB with old browser. You need >> more cycles to draw icons for methods, show categories in tree, not in >> a simple list etc. etc. >> If you want a real 'ouch' then compare it with MVC browser :) >> >>> Michael >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
