2009/2/10 Michael Rueger <m.rue...@acm.org>: > On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguc...@gmail.com> wrote: >> 2009/2/9 Michael Rueger <m.rue...@acm.org>: >>> Igor Stasenko wrote: > > >> I think that shortcuts should be bound to meta-keys (or hardware key >> scan code), so then regardless of keyboard layout, pressing alt-c >> should be understood as a 'copy' action. > > That's actually what the key even logic (at least on Windows) does. > > But, looking beyond Squeak, how are things like common shortcuts (cut, > copy, paste, print, quit etc) handled for all the different keyboard > layouts? >
- in FF3 i pressing same keys on keyboard for copy/paste/find regardless of current layout. - notepad too - wordpad too i think its a good practice, saving you from extra typing compare when you typing text in non-english lang and need to copy part of it: switch-copy-paste-swith back vs just copy-paste and most of people in Ukraine using even 3 keyboard layouts: - english - russian - ukrainian so, imagine how painful it could be when you need to copy text, but shortcuts working only in english layout.. you need to press languag switch keys 1 or 2 times (depending on settings), and look at a language indicator to check that now you in english. Very distracting and very inconvenient. > I remember early Smalltalk code using the scan code only, so ctrl-" > translated to ctrl-u-Umlaut on German keyboards, not a really > intuitive thing for a user ;-) > keyboards having different layouts (i mean physical) , and placing shortcut on keys which may differ on different keyboards is not good practice. But i think, for any keyboard which allows entering latin letters, using latin alphabet keys for shortcuts is safe. P.S. it seems that VM does not transfers key scan codes to image side :( > michael > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
