Mariano,
I don't what is loaded in Squeak because I only open it to check this
particular problem but Squeak 4.1 RC4 looks like Pharo.
I used it because it was easy to me load seaside and discard a network
connection problem on the operative system level.

Cheers,
Facu

2010/4/12 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianop...@gmail.com>

> Another difference maybe  the tools that are loaded in Squeak and Pharo. I
> am not aware what is loaded in Squeak images, but in PharoDev you have OB,
> OCompletion, RefactoringBrowser, TrueType fonts, Shout, etc.
>
> Some of these tools make Pharo a bit more slower than the PharoCore. If
> they Squeak image you are using doesn't have all those tools, then you
> should compare to a PharoCore image, not Dev. Pharo core images doesn't have
> all the dev tools.
>
> Cheers
>
> Mariano
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <
> stephane.duca...@inria.fr> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Apr 12, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
>>
>> > Marcus,
>> > I can't install Seaside on Pharo 1.1(*) but then i'll try again at home.
>> >
>> > It isn't my point to compare Pharo to Squeak performance but I used
>> Squeak to test this particular situation.
>> >
>> > Thank you,
>> >
>> > Facu
>> >
>> > (*) it's very slow to write the log taking minutes to complete the
>> instalation
>>
>> which log?
>>
>> Stef
>>
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.den...@inria.fr>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Marcus Denker wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Lukas,
>> > >> It happens on my machine with Windows/(Firefox-Chrome-IE 8) and
>> Pharo.
>> > >>
>> > >> But I test it on the same machine with Squeak 4.1 RC4 and it go very
>> very fast
>> > >> to open de smalltalk debugger.
>> > >> Furthermore, Squeak 4.1 RC4 seem to be faster than Pharo, did you
>> note that too or it's only my sensations?
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > > Did you check with Pharo 1.1?
>> > >
>> > >
>> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26762/PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE.1.zip
>> > >
>> > > In general, Squeak 4.1 should not be compared to Pharo 1.0 speed-wise,
>> but Pharo 1.1
>> > >
>> >
>> > My theory for your bug is that it's this:
>> >
>> >        http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=860
>> >
>> > We added it to 1.1 on Nov. 01, 2009. Not to 1.0, because 1.0 was
>> supposed to be released
>> > "very soon".
>> >
>> >        Marcus
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
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>> > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.
>> >
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