Thanks for asking and answering the problem. I've add an item to www.pharo-project.org/documentation/faq as it has become a FAQ.
Adrian On Apr 14, 2010, at 15:21 , Facundo Vozzi wrote: > Mariano, > I had to uninstall nod-32 and the problem disappeared. I don't know why the > problem doesn't happen with Squeak but it's ok on Pharo now. > > Thanks and sorry by my confusion, > Facu > > 2010/4/12 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianop...@gmail.com> > >> As Stef said...do you have some anti-virus program like nod-32 or something >> like that ? in such case you should exclude the directory where you have >> your Pharo image. >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Stéphane Ducasse < >> stephane.duca...@inria.fr> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Apr 12, 2010, at 10:46 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote: >>> >>>> It continues taking longer 15 seconds on 1.1 too, there isn't change. I >>> will try to compare with Squeak looking for the possible problem and its >>> solution. >>>> >>>> nobody has the same problem? >>> >>> No and this is strange because 1.1 got a lot of the stream changes that >>> made squeak faster. >>> >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> Facu >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Stéphane Ducasse < >>> stephane.duca...@inria.fr> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Apr 12, 2010, at 10:18 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote: >>>> >>>>> Stef, >>>>> I'm using Pharo 1.0 RC2 with Seaside 2.8.4 and all is fine but it took >>> over 15 seconds open a smalltalk debugger from a Seaside wallback. It was >>> the reason of my first mail. >>>>> I tried with Squeak 4.1 RC4, to discard a network configuration >>> problem at operative system level, and i don't have the problem. It takes 1 >>> second to open the debugger. >>>>> Then, Marcus ask to me if i had the same problem with >>> "PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE", at that time I download it, installed >>> Seaside and try again. To Install Seaside took to me over 20 minutes but I >>> had been instaled it on Pharo 1.0 and was been fine. >>>> >>>> ok so with 1.1 this is working? >>>> There were a **lot** of changes in 1.1. We will release shortly after >>> 1.0 and much much faster :) >>>> >>>>> Is it more clear now ?. Please, sorry for my poor English. >>>> >>>> Don;t worry. write simple sentences and we will understand you. >>>>> >>>>> Facu >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Stéphane Ducasse < >>> stephane.duca...@inria.fr> wrote: >>>>> This is really strange. Can you describe your setup? Do you have an >>> antivirus? And with Squeak you do not have that behavior? >>>>> We are loading larger code than seaside in Pharo and we do not have >>> this problem. >>>>> So I would really like to understand. Could you post your image >>> somewhere? >>>>> >>>>> Stef >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 12, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Stef, >>>>>> It took to me over 20 minutes to complete the Seaside 2.8 >>> installation and when I interrupted it the debugger opened when the system >>> was writting the pharoXXX.changes always but I couldn't check what is >>> happening. >>>>>> >>>>>> I will check it again. >>>>>> >>>>>> Facu >>>>>> >>>>>> ps: I refered to pharoXXX.changes as "log" because of Visual >>> Smalltalk where the "changes" are called changes.log, excuse me. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Stéphane Ducasse < >>> stephane.duca...@inria.fr> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 12, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Marcus, >>>>>>> I can't install Seaside on Pharo 1.1(*) but then i'll try again at >>> home. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It isn't my point to compare Pharo to Squeak performance but I >>> used Squeak to test this particular situation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Facu >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (*) it's very slow to write the log taking minutes to complete the >>> instalation >>>>>> >>>>>> which log? >>>>>> >>>>>> Stef >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Marcus Denker < >>> marcus.den...@inria.fr> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Lukas, >>>>>>>>> It happens on my machine with Windows/(Firefox-Chrome-IE 8) and >>> Pharo. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But I test it on the same machine with Squeak 4.1 RC4 and it go >>> very very fast >>>>>>>>> to open de smalltalk debugger. >>>>>>>>> Furthermore, Squeak 4.1 RC4 seem to be faster than Pharo, did >>> you note that too or it's only my sensations? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Did you check with Pharo 1.1? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26762/PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE.1.zip >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In general, Squeak 4.1 should not be compared to Pharo 1.0 >>> speed-wise, but Pharo 1.1 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My theory for your bug is that it's this: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=860 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We added it to 1.1 on Nov. 01, 2009. Not to 1.0, because 1.0 was >>> supposed to be released >>>>>>> "very soon". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Marcus >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de >>>>>>> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. 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