On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Adrian Lienhard <a...@netstyle.ch> wrote:
> Just a meta remark... > > In this thread 8 people have sent a total of 30 mails. But in the end > nobody volunteers to do the (not very hard) work to make what was discussed > actually happen. Was this a bikeshed.com discussion? Maybe not since > designing good menus is complex and important. But my point is that we > should take care, as a community, to not only invest into discussions but at > least as much into *doing*. > You're right, but for my part I *hate* saying "I will do" and then don't find the courage/motivation/whatever and not doing it (especially when something else captures my energy, I'm suspicious of myself :). That said I've reached the first step I want on Autotest, so now I can work on the menus, I know how it works. Cheers, Laurent > > Cheers, > Adrian > > > > On Jun 16, 2010, at 08:42 , Adrian Lienhard wrote: > > > OK, since there seems no opposition lets change it as proposed. > > > > Any taker? > > > > Adrian > > > > On Jun 15, 2010, at 09:17 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > > > >> > >> On Jun 14, 2010, at 10:07 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > >> > >>> OK, Torsten has some good points (like, why not doing it right now > rather than later?)! I took the proposal of Torsten from an earlier mail and > tweaked it a bit. This shows the complete world menu including sub menus: > >>> > >>> System Browser > >>> Workspace > >>> Test Runner > >>> Monticello Browser > >>> -------------------- > >>> Tools > >>> ... (<-as today) > >>> Windows > >>> Collapse all windows > >>> Expand all windows > >>> Close top window <<<< we could remove that since you can also press > the button > >>> Close all debuggers > >>> Send top window to back > >>> Move window onscreen > >>> Delete unchanged windows > >>> System > >>> About... > >>> Settings > >>> -------------- > >>> VM statistics > >>> Start profiling all processes > >>> Start profiling UI > >>> -------------- > >>> Start drawing again > >>> Start stepping again > >>> -------------- > >>> Restore display > >>> Enable halt inspect once > >>> Help > >>> Help Browser > >>> ProfStef Tutorial > >>> Welcome Workspace > >>> ---------------- > >>> Save > >>> Save as... > >>> Save and quit > >>> Quit > >>> > >>> > >>> Note, I inlined the debug menu into System. The reason is that I don't > like multiply nested menus and the system menu does not get overly long. > Also I deleted "Space left". Maybe other items like "Start stepping again" > are also not really useful anymore? Furthermore I moved "Close all > debuggers" into the Windows menu. I kept About... in system as I think it > has not much to do with Help but more with System. I also changed the labels > of some of the items (like Help Browser and ProfStef Tutorial). > >>> > >>> Does that look reasonable? > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> Adrian > >>> > >>> On Jun 14, 2010, at 20:45 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >>> > >>>> torsten > >>>> > >>>> propose a menu redistribution as laurent did so that we arrive to > something better. > >>>> I agree that debug could be in another place than in root. > >>>> > >>>> stef > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>> Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >
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