Le 20/09/2010 17:50, Levente Uzonyi a écrit :
> On Sat, 18 Sep 2010, Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
> 
>> Really I don't understand CUIS long term objective, why this work is not
>> done in Pharo? They share the same vision.
> 
> You could ask the same question with Pharo and Squeak instead of Cuis
> and Pharo, couldn't you?

No, I can't.

Pharo provides me a clear vision I can thrust: a Smalltalk environment
to build third party applications (ie makes my developer life easier).
Squeak does not provide me this thrust nor indication of that direction.
You can object it is matter of point of view, I will object it is a
matter of ressources you can allocate to write an application. Mine  are
limited: I start writing DrGeo under Squeak, then I continued with
Pharo. I can really fell the difference: nice Widgets, cleaner system I
can understand, ease to integrate changes/improvements upstream. All in
all, I get the job done more nicely from my perspective.

In the past, project got hudge resources (ie Sophie), this project
failed to give back to the community in a proper way. Was it because
Squeak defunct development model? I think so. IMHO, Pharo is trying to
fix that, and this is terribly important for a community.

Now, Squeak model of development is may be different, so it may not
happen again, I don't know.

> IMHO the reason is having total control and that's the same reason why
> Pharo was created.

This does not matter.

Hilaire

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Dr. Geo, to discover geometry on Linux, Windows, MAC and XO
http://community.ofset.org/index.php/DrGeo


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