Jumping in here, I used Squeak just a month or two ago to look at its serial 
port code, and something else IIRC.  I much prefer Pharo.



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Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Morphic

On Mon, 20 Sep 2010, Hilaire Fernandes wrote:

> Le 20/09/2010 17:50, Levente Uzonyi a écrit :
>> On Sat, 18 Sep 2010, Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
>>
>>> Really I don't understand CUIS long term objective, why this work is not
>>> done in Pharo? They share the same vision.
>>
>> You could ask the same question with Pharo and Squeak instead of Cuis
>> and Pharo, couldn't you?
>
> No, I can't.
>
> Pharo provides me a clear vision I can thrust: a Smalltalk environment
> to build third party applications (ie makes my developer life easier).
> Squeak does not provide me this thrust nor indication of that direction.

When was the last time you used Squeak?

> You can object it is matter of point of view, I will object it is a
> matter of ressources you can allocate to write an application. Mine  are
> limited: I start writing DrGeo under Squeak, then I continued with
> Pharo. I can really fell the difference: nice Widgets, cleaner system I
> can understand, ease to integrate changes/improvements upstream. All in
> all, I get the job done more nicely from my perspective.

So you're using Pharo because of Polymorph?

>
> In the past, project got hudge resources (ie Sophie), this project
> failed to give back to the community in a proper way. Was it because

I don't really get this, which project are you talking about?


Levente

> Squeak defunct development model? I think so. IMHO, Pharo is trying to
> fix that, and this is terribly important for a community.
>
> Now, Squeak model of development is may be different, so it may not
> happen again, I don't know.
>
>> IMHO the reason is having total control and that's the same reason why
>> Pharo was created.
>
> This does not matter.
>
> Hilaire
>
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