On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Daniel Lyons <[email protected]>wrote:
> Hi, > Hi, > > I have two questions, a technical one and a more general one. > > In broad strokes, what are people doing for GUIs? My guess would be using > Morphic, but googling around you find more abuse than use, it looks like, > and very little live links to up-to-date documentation. It makes me wonder: > is there something other than Morphic which is being used? Or is everyone > doing web apps? Or is there some other GUI toolkit I haven't found yet, and > that's where all the action is? Whenever I see a neat Morphic window or > something, I feel a bit like there's a party going on somewhere and I didn't > get an invitation. Like the first rule of Morphic club is you don't talk > about Morphic club. > Documentation still poor, but have you looked at: http://www.pharocasts.com/search/label/gui http://book.pharo-project.org/book/GUI http://www.youtube.com/user/nullPointerSM and http://www.squeaksource.com/UIBuilder.html > The general question I have is basically, am I the problem? Is it that the > documentation isn't where I expect to find it, or in the form I'm used to > seeing, or that it isn't relevant somehow in the Smalltalk universe? Or is > it all really intuitive except for me? :) I could accept that, I suppose, > but how did you Smalltalk wizards become wizards? Did you just dive in and > start reading the code in your own image? Was there some master Smalltalk > wizard that you knew who showed you how to do these things? I'm currently > reading Smalltalk Best Practice Patterns and it's one of the best > programming books I've ever read. I see that there is a great deal of > mastery of programming going around in Smalltalk circles, but I don't see > the books that take you past beginner towards master, other than SBPP. So > what's the trick going on here? How did you guys become excellent? > It's not intuitive, disturbing, took me some time to learn basic stuff, but had a lot of fun and discovered lot of beauty. I learn by doing some documenting project like ProfStef, Pharocasts, COTD and writing some personal tools with Pharo. > I hope none of this comes across as negative; I think surely it's that I'm > missing something. > That's not negative. It just shows that some work is still needed to lower the barrier for newcomers. Please help :) Laurent. > > Thanks, > > — > Daniel Lyons > > >
