On Sep 4, 2011, at 1:53 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
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> On Sep 4, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote:
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>> On 4 September 2011 12:18, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.duca...@inria.fr>
>> wrote:
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>>> On Sep 4, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote:
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>>>>> Now may be the default should be inverted.
>>>>> Not styled by default else we should really have a look at all the places
>>>>> where we should not shout and fix them.
>>>>> Because it looks strange to have a red text in inspector left pane
>>>>> especially when shout tries to parse anOrderedCollection (........)
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you do that in OB?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, by default all panes in OB are not shouted. If you load the
>>>> package OB-Shout it adds a couple of #shoutAboutToStyle: methods to
>>>> the models of the editors that require highlighting. The
>>>> #shoutAboutToStyle: methods configure Shout as necessary with the
>>>> class, extra bindings required, etc. Depending on the contents of the
>>>> text pane (class def, method def, comment) Shout is configured
>>>> differently, or even disabled.
>>>>
>>>> It is great that Alan is restoring this previous behavior again,
>>>> because it made the system truly extensible (also with alternative
>>>> highlighters like the PP based variation of Shout that Helvetia was
>>>> using).
>>>
>>> sure we did not break it on purpose just lack of documentation.
>>
>> I did not say that.
>
> I know :)
>
>> It is kind of surprising not to notice all the
>> #shoutAboutToStyle: everywhere that are suddenly not used anymore :-/
>
> learning is difficult when you have to learn too many things at once.
> You take the first actions that works and since it works your mental model
> does not push you
> to look for a better solution. Now with the help that alain is preparing then
> we will just read it, say ahhahah ok and behave correctly.
>
>>
>>> Now my point is that may be in addition the default behavior should be not
>>> to style.
>>> else we will have to put a aboutToStyle to any model that do not care about
>>> shoutatall.
>>
>> Not to style was the default behavior of Shout.
>
> ah ok.
> I do not understand then why the inspector shouts some unwanted text. I will
> have a look during one boring meetings one of these
> day.
The inspector is shouted because the "not to shout" was the default behavior of
Shout, but now,
okToStyle
self shoutEnabled
ifFalse: [^ false].
(model respondsTo: #shoutAboutToStyle:)
ifFalse: [^true].
^model shoutAboutToStyle: self
the bold part make the default behavior "to shout".
So maybe this value should be changed. But let's wait for Alain explanation :)
Ben
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>> Lukas
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>>> Stef
>>>>
>>>> Lukas
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>>>> Lukas Renggli
>>>> www.lukas-renggli.ch
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>> --
>> Lukas Renggli
>> www.lukas-renggli.ch
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