On Sep 4, 2011, at 8:20 PM, Alain Plantec wrote:

> Hi all,
> just coming back ...
> 
> yes
> if "not styled" is the default then #okToStyle should
> return false if #shoutAboutToStyle is not implemented by the model:
> 
> >     (model respondsTo: #shoutAboutToStyle:)
> >             ifFalse: [^true].
> 
> should be:
> >     (model respondsTo: #shoutAboutToStyle:)
> >             ifFalse: [^false].


Ok this is what I was thinking :)
Tx alain.


> Cheers
> Alain
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 04/09/2011 14:25, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The inspector is shouted because the "not to shout" was the default 
>>>> behavior
>>>> of Shout, but now,
>>>> okToStyle
>>>> self shoutEnabled
>>>> ifFalse: [^ false].
>>>> (model respondsTo: #shoutAboutToStyle:)
>>>> ifFalse: [^true].
>>>> ^model shoutAboutToStyle: self
>>>> the bold part make the default behavior "to shout".
>>>> So maybe this value should be changed. But let's wait for Alain explanation
>>> 
>>> No, #shoutEnabled returning true makes it enabled.
>> 
>> I do not get it
>> 
>> 
>> okToStyle
>>      self shoutEnabled
>>              ifFalse: [^ false].
>>      (model respondsTo: #shoutAboutToStyle:)
>>              ifFalse: [^true].
>>      ^model shoutAboutToStyle: self
>> 
>> shoutEnabled
>>      ^ self class shoutEnabled
>> 
>> shoutEnabled
>>      ^ (Smalltalk globals includesKey: #SHPreferences)
>>              and: [(Smalltalk globals at: #SHPreferences) enabled]
>> 
>> so when shout is loaded self shoutEnabled  = true
>> 
>>      self shoutEnabled
>>              ifFalse: [^ false].
>> 
>> So okToStyle will return true when the method shoutAboutToStyle: is not 
>> defined
>> 
>> (model respondsTo: #shoutAboutToStyle:)
>>              ifFalse: [^true].
>> 
>> and this is this default that I'm talking about.
>> Because if we would return false then only places that specifically define 
>> shoutAboutToStyle would be styled.
>> 
>> No?
>> 
>> 
>> Stef
>> 
> 
> 


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