On Jun 16, 2012, at 8:14 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:

> Stef,
> 
> I have had experts on it tell me exactly the opposite.  Things like "always 
> load specific versions" and "never load symbolic versions."  They mean well 
> (and have been helpful in the short term), but it is far from a generic 
> solution.  The "answer" will invariably be different "every time."
> 
> Citezen is much appreciated, but your answer to getting it to load was to 
> load a specific numeric version.  

did you read the configuration?
Because if there is no symbolic version then load a specific one.
Then you have to control what you want to load.

I think that symbolic versions are working quite well.



> Ditto Alien/FFI from others.
> 
> I am simply repeating what I have been told.
> 
> Bill
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> ________________________________________
> From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr 
> [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Stéphane Ducasse 
> [stephane.duca...@inria.fr]
> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 4:24 AM
> To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] start thinking on summer release of Pharo 1.4
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> On Jun 16, 2012, at 12:57 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
> 
>> But if I'm building a new image *today*, I want it to do the right thing now 
>> (automatically for the current version), with the same incantation as worked 
>> months ago or months from now.
> 
> Bill when do you take the time to have a look at Metacello.
> Why people like me are spending days on writing 45 pages of documentation to 
> hear you saying that.
> 
> This scenario is supported since months nearly since Barcelona 2010.
> 
> 
>>  If we can't do that, the config browser is pretty much a dream vs. reality.
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>> ________________________________________
>> From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr 
>> [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Sean P. DeNigris 
>> [s...@clipperadams.com]
>> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:49 PM
>> To: pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] start thinking on summer release of Pharo 1.4
>> 
>> Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote
>>> 
>>> My gripe is... that configs... work (very) differently over time
>>> 
>> With the current evolution of Metacello, this should not be the case. Done
>> right, what a config loads can be 100% static and repeatable. If you load a
>> literal version (e.g. '1.4'), which loads literal versions of dependent
>> projects (which they should unless there is a reason not to, e.g. a loose
>> dependency like Seaside on OB), which load literal versions all the way
>> down, it will do the same thing today, tomorrow, and ten years from now.
>> 
>> The only hill to climb now is getting the word out about Metacello
>> conventions/best practices.
>> 
>> 
>> Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote
>>> 
>>> If pre-loading, how about FFI?
>>> 
>> I think "easily loadable" is the correct state, not included by default.
>> 
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