Thanks Ciprian! Cheers, Alexandre
On Sep 26, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Ciprian Teodorov <ciprian.teodo...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello everybody, > > During the weekend I had a look at the Roassal project and I found it very > good. Moreover I find that asking around the community for good ideas to > drive the future of the project a cool initiative. > > About that, I completely agree with Ben's first 3 directions. Other cool > ideas in terms of ergonomy can be found in the Yed graph drawing tool. > > From my experience working on computer-aided design tools for the electrical > (electronical) industry i can say that one very important feature that these > kind of tools need is the ability to create/edit large hierarchical graphs. > From my perspective a electrical circuit is nothing more than a large graph > of interconnected elements with each node representing a physical device. > Hierarchical composition of such structures is necessary to ease the > understanding of the system. In consequence IMHO being able to easily dive-in > and get-out of hierarchical components is the most important feature that > Roassal is missing right now. Just imagine looking at a layed-out graph of > ten interconnected nodes, then just by clicking on one of these nodes the > view is replaced by another graph representing the inner components. > Furthermore I believe that such an approach can be abstracted away to more > complex interactions (opening a view with an editor window on that particular > instance of the node, etc). > > Another feature that I think it is missing in most (if not all) graph > viewers/layout systems/editors is the possibility to have connection ports on > the hierarchical nodes in order to preserve the connections passing through > the hierarchy. > > some pointers: > > http://www.slideshare.net/teodorov/tools-and-crossbarbased-nanocmos-architectures > > http://stiff.univ-brest.fr/~cteodorov/manuscript-teodorov_FINAL.pdf > > > > Cheers, > > Ciprian Teodorov > > > > On Sep 26, 2012 6:16 PM, "Vanessa Peña Araya" <van.c.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thank you, Ben. And yes, this is the kind of things that are very useful. > > 3. Electrical Software Development Platform - CRITICAL priority > Of course, my own project to complete my masters within the next couple of > months!! This is implementing a model browser for the IEC 61970 Common > Information Model. I showed this to Alex a while ago and am just now getting > back to the point I was at before switching from Mondrian to Roassal. While > this has taken a while I am very happy with the additional control I have > with Roassal (and a lot of this time has been too many demands by my day > job). Perhaps a rough early release is not too far away. > I'm sorry but I don't know this, so I don't understand really. Is there some > place I can see it? > > As yes, the features you mentioned are interesting. You are not the first to > mention features 4, for example. > > Thank you very much :) > > Vanessa. > > > Alexandre Bergel wrote: > This is not that we do not have ideas :-) > > Our todo list includes: > - book chapter on Roassal > - exporters (e.g., HTML, SVG, JavaScript) > - semantic zooming > - way to compose shapes > - scalability > > We obtained this list from our personal needs and the need of the Moose and > VW communities. > > Vanessa is working on a proposal for ESUG to help us on the development of > Roassal. We are therefore surveying the Pharo community in case of there is a > wished feature that we did not see or did not put high on our todolist. We > are currently maintaining Roassal (i.e., fixing bugs) and pursuing our > innovation effort (i.e., implementing cool ideas). The ESUG support will help > us increase our productivity. > > And yes, we would love to see someone use Roassal to visualize genome, DNA > and other biological data. We are ready to provide a strong support. > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > On Sep 25, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Hernán Morales Durand > <hernan.mora...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I don't know your project scope, but these pointers may help you to grab some > features to implement: > > http://www.tm4.org/mev/features > > Also take a look into the Circular Genome Viewer: > http://wishart.biology.ualberta.ca/cgview/gallery.html > > specially the browsable maps > > http://wishart.biology.ualberta.ca/BacMap/cgview_linked_maps/NC_003198/index.html > > > check out the Expand+ and Rotate+ operations > > Other very nice engine is Circos > > http://circos.ca/ > > which contains plots that has been published in Science, Nature and PLOS. > > Cheers, > > Hernán > > > On 25/09/2012 11:48, Vanessa Peña Araya wrote: > Hello! > As you probably know, Roassal was presented at ESUG. We received a lot > of positive feedback from you and also a lot of request for features. > Thank you very much! > > We want to start working on this, but also prioritize what seems to be > more urgent. > For this, we would like to survey the community about > 1 - what are the features you would like to see in Roassal. Please, > provide a list of features requests and tell us about their priority > 2 - scenarios where you would like to use Roassal. > > Thank you very much, > Vanessa. > > > > > > > > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
