Hi,
Is really nice to see this talk happening. I want to use Pharo for data
narratives (it can be open/garage/citizen science or data Journalism)
and I have recently talked about this on this list and the ones of Moose
and SciSmalltalk, but seems that the thread initialized by Volkert got
more traction, so I will continue here, which seems like a better place.
I would like to advocate that the conditions for a Notebook for visual
data narratives and open/citizen/garage science made in Smalltalk are
there now that we have Pharo 3, Roassal and Moose Playgrounds. I think
that this notebook could be made essentially by putting these
playgrounds ordered in a tree/outliner. I have made a similar argument
for a tree like interface for IPython notebooks on [1] and I'm using
this tree-like writing experience for my own writing of my PhD Thesis
[2] (Spanish) and I have started to explore some visual data narratives
in Roassal/Moose[3] (Spanish).
[1] http://mutabit.com/mutabit/default/wiki/ipython-deepness
[2]
http://mutabit.com/offray/static/blog/output/posts/la-forma-en-que-escribo-para-el-doctorado.html
[3]
http://mutabit.com/offray/static/blog/output/posts/borrachos-bochinche-futbol.html
I'm just making a mockup of this using Moose browsers while I learn
Pharo with this problem oriented approach. I will ask in another thread
my specific questions about the issues I found while working on this
project. I think that the Tudor's video about PostgreSQL and
visualization is a glimpse of the possibilities and Kilion work
interfacing with blender/python shows that this outline could be even
interface with IPython notebooks. Outliners can be a proper metaphor for
exploratory computing and writing and as org-mode has shown, this simple
but powerful metaphor can be a game changer. This are good times for
data narratives in Pharo. I would try to help with this.
Cheers,
Offray
On 07/31/2014 08:29 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
I am successful using Pharo + Roassal/Mondrian in analyzing and visualizing IT
architecture models. And it is real fun. :-)
Glad to ear this :-)
Yes, the vision I see behind Pharo, Moose, Roassal is to provide a solid
alternative to R. We are not there yet, but we will get there.
Cheers,
Alexandre
But it is always good the see, what is happening outside the "camp" ... and
yes, if i find outside better solutions to
my problems i move forward ...
BW,
Volkert
Am 31.07.2014 um 08:15 schrieb stepharo:
On 31/7/14 07:55, volk...@nivoba.de wrote:
I like to concept of the Type Providers and the Deedle library.
http://fsharp.github.io/FSharp.Data/
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh156509.aspx
http://bluemountaincapital.github.io/Deedle/
Build a library for Pharo and it will be even more exciting. Doing is exciting.
I started to read a book on R and looking at their data manipulation. I think
that we can have the same.
Now we can be either contemplative or doing.
I chose my camp. In which one are you?
Stef
BW,
Volkert
Am 30.07.2014 um 23:45 schrieb Tudor Girba:
I did watch the movie. The only interesting thing it has are the types. Besides
that, from what I can see in the demo, the interactivity and the options of the
GTPlayground/GTInspector is, in my opinion, better.
And we just got started :).
Doru
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 10:38 PM, volk...@nivoba.de <volk...@nivoba.de> wrote:
Please watch the video.
BW,
Volkert
Am 30.07.2014 um 22:12 schrieb stepharo:
On 30/7/14 21:57, Tudor Girba wrote:
Moose is not about software analysis, but about data analysis :)
+1
and you can morph it to your needs and participate :)
Look at the Roassal demos, or at the work around the GTPlayground or
GTInspector:
http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/browsing-files-with-gtinspector-video/
http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/dynamic-exploration-of-a-postgres-db-with-the-gtinspector/
Doru
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 9:47 PM, volk...@nivoba.de <volk...@nivoba.de> wrote:
Here a really nice video on interactive data aquiring, analysis und
visualization with F#.
http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Understanding-the-World-with-F
Is this the way Pharo + Roassal + ... goes? Ok, we have moose, but a i
understand
it puts the focus on sw analysis and sw visualization. What about a new
easy to use and interactive data science platform?
BW,
Volkert
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