Hmm, yes, http://files.pharo.org/platform/Pharo6.1-linux.zip seems broken, duh.
$ curl get.pharo.org | bash works fine though. It is not possible to offer a single solution for 'Linux' as there are 100s of distributions, package managers, and individual preferences and tastes. That is what GNU/Linux is for. It also assumes you know what you are doing (i.e. understand the command line). > On 5 Dec 2017, at 16:10, horrido <horrido.hobb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Then clearly there is something seriously wrong with the Default GNU/Linux > download. It does not contain a file called 'pharo-ui'. > > Moreover, since the Pharo6.1.image file is located in the 'shared' folder, > you'd have to CD to 'shared' to execute your command. No mention of this > anywhere! How is a newbie to know??? > > Also, there is absolutely no indication that: (a) you need to download a VM; > and (b) where you can obtain this VM from. All in all, this Linux support is > quite messed up. It would be safer to remove it completely from pharo.org, > rather than confusing the hell out of a visitor to pharo.org. > > > > Stephane Ducasse-3 wrote >> On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 5:49 AM, horrido < > >> horrido.hobbies@ > >> > wrote: >>> Understood. I'm working on a Pharo Quick Start guide. If it passes muster >>> with you guys, you may want to link to it, or incorporate its contents >>> into >>> the pharo.org website. >> >> Sure let us know. >> >> >>> However, I've stumbled on an odd obstacle: downloading and running the >>> Default GNU/Linux zip file. According to the Linux installation page, and >>> I >>> quote: >>> >>> Version 6.1 for several common GNU/Linux configurations. The zip files >>> contain everything necessary. Just download and run the executable. For >>> more >>> download options, see the sections below. >> >> ./pharo-ui Pharo61.image & >>> >>> I am unable to "run the executable" without further explanation. I'm >>> guessing that it's missing the Pharo VM, which apparently isn't included >>> in >>> the download. >> >> Why would it be? >> >> >>> >>> A newbie looking at this installation page and trying to get started with >>> Pharo under Linux would be totally confused and frustrated. Hell, *I'm >>> totally confused and frustrated!* >> >> As you see this can be fixed without losing more time on that. >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> Stephane Ducasse-3 wrote >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> We have a full mooc with 90 videos, we have books. And we are super >>>> busy. >>>> You see we cannot do everything. >>>> >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 5:15 AM, horrido < >>> >>>> horrido.hobbies@ >>> >>>> > wrote: >>>>> Speaking of which, one of my readers said he tried out Pharo recently >>>>> and >>>>> found the documentation wanting. He was expecting a Getting Started >>>>> guide >>>>> at >>>>> the pharo.org website and couldn't find one. So he had to blunder >>>>> around >>>>> a >>>>> bit. >>>>> >>>>> I told him he could've looked at "Chapter 2: A quick tour of Pharo" in >>>>> the >>>>> *Pharo by Example 5* book, but he's right. There ought to be something >>>>> obvious at the pharo.org website that helps a newbie get Pharo up and >>>>> running, understand how to basically use the Pharo IDE, and write the >>>>> standard "Hello World" program. >>>>> >>>>> I checked out squeak.org and found the same documentation issue! Why is >>>>> this??? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas-2 wrote >>>>>> Documentation is going well. In fact the stuff that kept me away of >>>>>> Squeak, despite of its potential was the lack of documentation. "The >>>>>> artifact is the curriculum" was to powerful but too heavy. You need a >>>>>> way to understand how to deconstruct and navigate the artifact that is >>>>>> usually anchored with the culture you have (books and reading) instead >>>>>> of only launching inspectors os browsing the code. Grafoscopio is my >>>>>> attempt to fill that gap between the world of objects/simulations and >>>>>> the world of scripts/documents. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> Offray >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html >>>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html >>> > > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
