On Sat, 15 Mar 2003, J Sloan wrote:

> Are you're calling me a small dog, or
> saying I like to bark at small dogs?

Ah..the mystery or double meanings. Just ponder awhile longer and you
might see the deeper meaning still.

> "I'm not holding my breath - I've
> been gaming on linux for years"

Too bad...you might find holding yer breathe rewarding. How about
this...think of it as a...game, maybe then it will be cool enough or
interesting enough to try.

And no one been saying that linux "gaming" isn't possible. I game in
linux all the time...glines is always a fun game, to waste time
with, when flamewars on mailinglists start to become somewhat
repetitive...like this one.

This flamewar is all about yer assersion that "games and multimedia" are
a "huge driving force" in linux. Okay actually it started with yer very
silly "3d support ain't good enough" for modern hardware comments back in
the NVIDIA patches thread, which mharris beat me to...man I hate it when
he does that. I hate it when mharris jumps in and talks about the state
of the art technical issues, before I get a chance to run my mouth off
about it. I hate it more when people, like you, try to argue with him
about what the lay of the land is in terms of video development.  It was
particular amusing though that you made such a big deal about comparing
driver support for what is an essential a dead line of video hardware...to
driver support for the current generation of chips.  If I find a
stockpile of voodoo 3 cards for you...would that be enough to shut you up
for the next couple of years, until the gaming industry for linux
matures?

Yer ability and fanatical desire to play FPS's doesn't constitute a
driving force. My ability and fanatical desire to play Dance Dance
Revolution on linux, is not a driving force.  You want better 3d support
on modern 3d hardware so you can play those games in the gloriously
eye-candy filled and utterly trite FPS genre, that will happen when the
game publishers and the hardware manufacturs are going to have to sink
development time into the open source aspects of linux...to mold linux so
its full potential as a gaming platform.  If its up to the OSS developers
to get it right on their own, without development help from the hardware
manufacturers and game publishers, without help from the people who will
reap the most profit in the end...yer gonna see full 3d support on
"modern" hardware that we have to day, on the same timescales as we saw
with the voodoo cards...just in time to see the cards be retired and no
longer made.

-jef"goes back to playing RTCW, it is a saturday after all, time
for fun"spaleta





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