Elton Woo wrote:
On Tuesday 25 March 2003 19:16, Audioslave - 7M3 - Live wrote:

Charles Griffin wrote:

OSNews apparently received an early copy of RH 9
(called "Shrike") for review.

Check it out here:
http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=3119

Regards,
Charles



Thanks for the link to the article. It sounds like the coverage was
fairly in-line with my experiences with this beta.

The mozilla phone calls make me wonder, for those that plan on upgrading
only. I guess since it doesn't work well. They might be better off with
the 1.3 or later browser versions.

Jim


I must say that I'm a rather disappointed the the status quo WRT MP3
support in Red Hat 9 remains the same. Considering that both Mandrake
and SUSe are releasing their next versions with MP3 support in them...
(... unless I'm seriously mistaken about this!).

I realise too, that Red Hat's main focus is in the server market, and it looks like the other distros have a better chance of gaining the desktop
(read: Windows converts).


QUESTION: Does this mean that any serious challenge to the Wintel
desktop will be only forthcoming from Europe? True, "Lindows" might be
making some kind of dent, but only in parts of the USA. I am yet to see
a Lindows box at any local brangh of Walmart (even though those stores
are sprouting in these parts like mushrooms after a heavy rainfall...

QUESTION: Release notes (RH 9)? I don't think (IMVHO) that the release notes from Phoebe3 would apply, since there were so many
unresolved questions and show-stoppers...


... but then I could be wrong, just as I was wrong in thinking that
the DOJ would really have come down hard on Microsoft...

Elton ;-)

I was also gullible with the DOJ game that was played out. I guess the days for convincing others to switch from Windows to specifically Red Hat are getting lesser.


To be fair about the mp3 issue. It isn't that major of a deal to get the proper rpm for it to work again. It does however take away the idea of a ready to go, everything included attitude. that I had in the past.

To conquer the desktop market, you have to be attractive and hassle free , in the eyes of the future customer. I see too many things disappearing. With the 95 percent of the future windows converts, they can download many different executables and easily install them upon their systems. Making it less convienient and with less functionality only reduces the prospect of a pulling force for more users.

Reducing the availability of programs has made the apt-get for rpm alternative look more attractive and a desired tool.

Red Hat got me away from windows. But the latest developments with regards to missing programs, less than full support for not 100 percent pure systems and the fear that the free days for Red Hat are fading.

In my view, you have to build the base. Broaden the offerings, then entice (not force) others to subscribe to services.

I wish the best for Red Hat and am still planning on subscribing to their 60 dollars for always available updates (within the distro supported range). I like the fast connections for downloading ISOs.

I am repelled for several reasons. It sounds like I'm losing things (mp3 and other favorite programs). I am made aware (or getting the impression) that I have to
have a completely Genuine Red Hat system or the support is absolutely zero. Even though it is being paid for support.


I keep thinking .. "I'll get the 60 dollars per year deal.' Then think "What for!"

I am planning on checking out the rhn subscription. I keep on getting deferred with these changes.

Jim

RH user since version 4.2 .. regular user, since attracted by 5.2 (Real audio, Wordperfect trial and netscape)


-- "They told me I was gullible ... and I believed them!"



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