Thank you gentlemen for your en"light"enment!  Very informative and I 
appreciate the insight.

Steve

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "Dan K" <[email protected]> 

> When Tesla came to Edison, he had already proven himself at several European 
> Edison companies, and was given a technical job, not "laborer". His first 
> assignment was repairing the lighting plant on the SS Oregon. 
> 
> At Colorado Springs, Tesla was SUPPOSED to be developing the "cold light" ('I 
> can run on a wire sufficient for one incandescent lamp more than 1000 of my 
> own 
> lamps, giving fully 5000 as much light' - Tesla to Astor), with experiments 
> financed by J.J.Astor IV. Instead, Tesla wasted the money ($30,000) building 
> huge machines to test his theories about the atmosphere. He also claimed to 
> be 
> in touch with Martians. 
> 
> Tesla abandoned Colorado Springs, returned to New York, and found that Astor 
> would not 'invest' more money. Tesla later turned to J.P.Morgan, who had no 
> interest in Tesla's "world power" scheme, but only in wireless telegraphy. To 
> that end, Morgan financed the building of another expensive Tesla facility, 
> on 
> Long Island. Morgan cut off the gravy train after Marconi announced his 
> signal 
> across the Atlantic, accomplished with much less money. 
> 
> Tesla's contribution to the electrical industry was brilliant and important, 
> but 
> was limited to his first concepts. After that, he was not much more than a 
> crazy braggart, making wild claims without concrete proof, and wiping his 
> silverware with 18 linen napkins at each meal, as well as himself with 18 
> towels 
> each morning, to remove "the germs". 
> 
> 
> We're still waiting for the 1,000 lights 5,000 times brighter, on a single 
> light 
> bulb's wire ..... 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Maeder" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 8:49 AM 
> Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Edison History Question 
> 
> 
> My guess would be that the movie is referring to Nkola Tesla, as he actually 
> built a power generating tower in Colorado. Tesla and Edison were rivals. 
> When Tesla arrived from Transylvania with the concept of Alternating Current 
> and took it to Edison, Edison responded by giving Tesla employment as a 
> laborer, no doubt to protect his and his investors' investment in DC power 
> generation and distribution. Eventually, Tesla was hired by Westinghouse, 
> who put his ideas to practice, eclipsing Edison's DC system. Much of 
> Tesla's experimentation was in high-frequency AC generation and reception. 
> He was able to remote-control a miniature submarine in the early 1890's, 
> invented the fluorescent light tube, and the aforementioned Tesla Coil 
> (think the sparks in the laboratory in the film 'Frankenstein'). Tesla's 
> high concept was that of the earth as a rotor and the atmospheric magnetic 
> field surrounding it as a stator. The tower he built in Colorado was to act 
> as a collector of the electrical field that is generated as the earth 
> rotates (i.e. the North & South Poles). The tower would form a pole and the 
> magnetic field encircling the earth from the tower would form an antipole 
> directly opposite on the globe where the power could be collected most 
> efficiently by another tower. This was a system of free power generation. 
> The tower and attendant buildings were attacked and destroyed one night, 
> allegedly by goons working for Edison's principal investor in metered power 
> distribution, J.P. Morgan. Anyone else care to chime in? Read "Tesla: Man 
> Out of Time" by Margaret Cheney Rice, and Tesla's own odd autobiography. He 
> was a very interesting man. 
> 
> 
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From [email protected]  Sun Apr  8 11:55:05 2007
From: [email protected] (estott)
Date: Sun Apr  8 11:58:38 2007
Subject: [Phono-L] Edison History Question
References: <[email protected]>
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Here is a page with information (and a picture) of Tesla's long island 
building, plus an outline of his wireless telegraphy idea and his power 
transmission scheme.  He probably could have made it work, but it would have 
been wildly expensive- the project would have sucked up money with no 
possibility of a profitable return.

Stott


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan K" <[email protected]>
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison History Question


> Tesla abandoned Colorado Springs, returned to New York, and found that 
> Astor
> would not 'invest' more money.  Tesla later turned to J.P.Morgan, who had 
> no
> interest in Tesla's "world power" scheme, but only in wireless telegraphy. 
> To
> that end, Morgan financed the building of another expensive Tesla 
> facility, on
> Long Island.   Morgan cut off the gravy train after Marconi announced his 
> signal
> across the Atlantic, accomplished with much less money.
>
> Tesla's contribution to the electrical industry was brilliant and 
> important, but
> was limited to his first concepts.  After that, he was not much more than 
> a
> crazy braggart, making wild claims without concrete proof, and wiping his
> silverware with 18 linen napkins at each meal, as well as himself with 18 
> towels
> each morning, to remove "the germs".
>
>
> We're still waiting for the 1,000 lights 5,000 times brighter, on a single 
> light
> bulb's wire .....
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Maeder" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 8:49 AM
> Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Edison History Question
>
>
> My guess would be that the movie is referring to Nkola Tesla, as he 
> actually
> built a power generating tower in Colorado.  Tesla and Edison were rivals.
> When Tesla arrived from Transylvania with the concept of Alternating 
> Current
> and took it to Edison, Edison responded by giving Tesla employment as a
> laborer, no doubt to protect his and his investors' investment in DC power
> generation and distribution.  Eventually, Tesla was hired by Westinghouse,
> who put his ideas to practice, eclipsing Edison's DC system.  Much of
> Tesla's experimentation was in high-frequency AC generation and reception.
> He was able to remote-control a miniature submarine in the early 1890's,
> invented the fluorescent light tube, and the aforementioned Tesla Coil
> (think the sparks in the laboratory in the film 'Frankenstein').  Tesla's
> high concept was that of the earth as a rotor and the atmospheric magnetic
> field surrounding it as a stator.  The tower he built in Colorado was to 
> act
> as a collector of the electrical field that is generated as the earth
> rotates (i.e. the North & South Poles).  The tower would form a pole and 
> the
> magnetic field encircling the earth from the tower would form an antipole
> directly opposite on the globe where the power could be collected most
> efficiently by another tower.  This was a system of free power generation.
> The tower and attendant buildings were attacked and destroyed one night,
> allegedly by goons working for Edison's principal investor in metered 
> power
> distribution, J.P. Morgan.  Anyone else care to chime in?  Read "Tesla: 
> Man
> Out of Time" by Margaret Cheney Rice, and Tesla's own odd autobiography. 
> He
> was a very interesting man.
>
>
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