Yes it is.  Google "sabot" and go to Wikipedia for detailed description. 
Then you can figure out how it might apply to a needle holder.
Ray

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron L" <lhera...@bu.edu>
To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 4:01 PM
Subject: RE: [Phono-L] threaded needles


> Isn't sabot a French word for boot?
>
> Ron L
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] 
> On
> Behalf Of Thatcher Graham
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 3:17 PM
> To: Antique Phonograph List
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] threaded needles
>
>
> As an engineer I could not help but to fixate on this "threaded needle
> idea". I agree that threading needles solves the mass issue hence the
> instinctive appeal, but the difficult manufacture is equally
> discouraging.  As an alternative, have you considered a sabot?
>
> -Thatcher
>
>
>
> Jon Noring wrote:
>> Greg wrote:
>>
>>
>>>     Threading the needle shank and having it screw into the needle bar 
>>> is
> an
>>> option.  I hadn't considered that before, but it would pretty well solve
> the
>>> extra mass problem.  But it would make the needles pretty involved to
>>> manufacture.  I'll keep it in mind.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, it would be involved if all the needles are threaded by hand or
>> in small numbers, especially at the diameter being considered.
>>
>> It is intriguing to consider using a very fine threaded rod, if even
>> manufactured in the desired material(s). One would have to grind and
>> polish to create the tip geometry.
>>
>> Which brings up the idea that if a needle is to be especially
>> manufactured, one could consider tipping it with a different material
>> that can be specially shaped (such as spherical or elliptical with
>> no sharp edges at all. It is my understanding that most damage to
>> grooves is due to a tip which is no longer smooth. Maybe the tip could
>> be made from a material of the same hardness as the "grit" used in
>> shellac discs (is it corundum?) to wear down the needle.
>>
>> Just thinking outside the box...
>>
>> Jon
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