I thought Toyota gives the batteries 10 years.  I think they are the newer
Lithium Ion type, right?  These are better than the older Nickel
rechargeables, I'm pretty sure.

Ron L

-----Original Message-----
From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of Greg Bogantz
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 2:19 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vehicle?

    The elephant in the room that NOBODY ever talks about with these hybrid 
cars is the cost to replace the battery pack.  Anybody who has ever owned a 
rechargeable anything knows that the battery is only good for about 3 years,

advertising claims to the contrary.  The published cost of the battery pack 
for the Toyota Prius is about $3,000.  Anyone who has any thought of buying 
a used Prius had better be prepared to shuck out another 3 grand very 
quickly to actually keep the thing on the road.  And the estimated battery 
cost of the new Chebby Volt is about 8 GRAND!  No wonder the car is set to 
retail for 40 grand.  Until there is an economical way to lease or trade in 
these battery packs, the whole "economical, money saving" baloney about 
operating one of these cars is just a pipe dream.  It makes good advertising

malarkey, but owners of these cars are in for a rude awakening sooner rather

than later.

Greg Bogantz



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "john robles" <john9...@pacbell.net>
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vehicle?


Are there charging stations for these types of cars? I don't know how long 
they take to charge, but I would imagine at some point there will need to be

places where they can be charged publicly. 100 miles is not a lot of ground 
to cover when you are scouring the countryside for phonographs!
John

--- On Mon, 3/8/10, DanKj <ediso...@verizon.net> wrote:

From: DanKj <ediso...@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vehicle?
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
Date: Monday, March 8, 2010, 10:57 AM

They say 100 miles under ideal conditions. That's more than I drive each 
week, so such a car would suit me - except that I have no driveway so no 
place to plug it in ! The 'LEAF" doesn't look Victrola-sized, either


----- Original Message ----- From: "john robles" <john9...@pacbell.net>
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vehicle?


I just saw a commercial last night for Nissan's new all-electric vehicle. I 
wonder how far you get on a charge..
John Robles


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