Agreed. I'd love an economical "new" 4-wheel drive with ABS brakes, large enough for "stuff." But frankly, battery power doesn't seem like the way to go. I'm stickin' with my 13 year old Honda CRV (traction-control) which has over 120K miles and still gets about 24-26 MPG...until something better comes out, like a Hydrogen converter...if I live that long. ;) Mom's little 2001 Honda Civic get 38 MPG. It has tilt forward rear seats and is amazinly accomodative (7-8ft lumber). The size limitation is the width/height of the trunk entry area...too bad. You'd think that whatever technology went into that little 9-year old car could have been expanded to include larger vehicles, wouldn't ya?
Ger ger55 on ebay; ge...@comcast.net Victorian Glass Plus! http://www.tias.com/stores/vgpp http://groups.yahoo.com/group/glass_antique_and_old/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Greg Bogantz To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vehicle? The elephant in the room that NOBODY ever talks about with these hybrid cars is the cost to replace the battery pack. Anybody who has ever owned a rechargeable anything knows that the battery is only good for about 3 years, advertising claims to the contrary. The published cost of the battery pack for the Toyota Prius is about $3,000. Anyone who has any thought of buying a used Prius had better be prepared to shuck out another 3 grand very quickly to actually keep the thing on the road. And the estimated battery cost of the new Chebby Volt is about 8 GRAND! No wonder the car is set to retail for 40 grand. Until there is an economical way to lease or trade in these battery packs, the whole "economical, money saving" baloney about operating one of these cars is just a pipe dream. It makes good advertising malarkey, but owners of these cars are in for a rude awakening sooner rather than later. Greg Bogantz ----- Original Message ----- From: "john robles" <john9...@pacbell.net> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vehicle? Are there charging stations for these types of cars? I don't know how long they take to charge, but I would imagine at some point there will need to be places where they can be charged publicly. 100 miles is not a lot of ground to cover when you are scouring the countryside for phonographs! John --- On Mon, 3/8/10, DanKj <ediso...@verizon.net> wrote: From: DanKj <ediso...@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vehicle? To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Date: Monday, March 8, 2010, 10:57 AM They say 100 miles under ideal conditions. That's more than I drive each week, so such a car would suit me - except that I have no driveway so no place to plug it in ! The 'LEAF" doesn't look Victrola-sized, either ----- Original Message ----- From: "john robles" <john9...@pacbell.net> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vehicle? I just saw a commercial last night for Nissan's new all-electric vehicle. I wonder how far you get on a charge.. John Robles _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
