I don't know how this works with the new Ebay scheme but, especially with larger items, we (and our friends) have asked the seller to take the item to the UPS or Fedex store and we deal with the store directly for packing and/or shipping costs. There have been no problems so far, although I have to admit, we and our friend have not bought anything phono related on Ebay for quite some time. Jan
On 2011-10-10, at 12:23 AM, john robles wrote: > I must say that I can't agree with the opinion on the ebay shipping > calculator - I find the shipping calculator to be quite faulty. I lost some > money on a couple of shipments by trusting it. Ever since then I use my > postal scale and USPS online, and the result is that the Priority Mail cost > to ship is always quite different than the ebay calculator says! > > > > ________________________________ > From: The Farmers <g...@usfamily.net> > To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2011 11:48 PM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] shipping cost tricks on eBay, and the tricksters who > do them > > Yes, it sure doesn't sound like the seller is trying to keep his customers > satisfied. Too bad you missed out on a great looking phonograph. Actual > shipping should be around $20-25 for a light-weight phonograph like that, and > would probably be that much only because of the size of the box needed to > protect that horn. In my opinion, getting it packed at UPS is for the > seller's convenience and it always rubs me the wrong way to have to pay extra > for that when I buy something. > > I would like to mention though that I've found eBay's shipping calculator to > work quite well. When selling, I find an appropriate box and weigh it plus > the item plus packing material, and enter that, along with measurements, into > the listing, along with several options for shipping (parcel post, priority, > etc). After it sells, eBay's invoice automatically will include the shipping > costs for each shipping method to the buyers actual zip or country, and it > seems to always be accurate. This makes sending out the invoice with correct > shipping cost MUCH easier and quicker than manually figuring it out after the > sale. Most buyers must be happy with this since my eBay feedback rating for > shipping & handling charges is now averaging 4.96 stars out of 5 possible. I > think there's always that odd buyer who won't give sellers 5 stars because he > thinks the post office is charging too much, even though that is out of our > hands. > > -- Greg > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Fraser" <pjfra...@mac.com> > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 1:00 AM > Subject: [Phono-L] shipping cost tricks on eBay,and the tricksters who do them > > >> I changed the subject line since this is how the conversation is drifting. >> And here's the full story. >> >> There are lots of folks on eBay now who put random shipping prices into >> their listings because of the restrictions eBay automatically imposes. For >> example, I always put $1 in there and clearly state in the listing that I'll >> get the actual shipping cost once we know the winner's location, and bill >> that amount. That's the fair thing to do. >> >> This guy said in his listing that he would ship it as "cheaply as possible," >> but then also had $50 showing in the shipping slot. >> >> So all I did was politely enquire as to whether he wanted to quote actual >> shipping now that he knew my location. That could have worked in either >> direction, by the way. >> >> In return I got a rant about how he doesn't know how to pack and how he has >> UPS pack for him, and that he actually wouldn't ship it "as cheaply as >> possible" as stated in the listing, but for $50. I immediately went back to >> him agreeing to that (because it wasn't worth the quibble over a $10 >> overcharge), but asking him to please make sure the tip of the stylus was >> protected before handing it off to the random UPS folks. We all know how >> easily Columbia floating reproducers can bang into mandrels, but others >> don't. >> >> And I heard nothing back, even though I pinged him a couple more times. So I >> looked him up and phoned him, politely seeking to complete our contract. He >> cursed at me and hung up on me, but still got nothing via eBay from him. I >> went thru eBay to try to get him to complete the deal, but no luck - but did >> succeed in getting him a black mark. If I had paid, it would have been more >> severe and eBay would have paid me, then delisted him. But when he didn't >> respond I knew it was fishy, so I held up on the money, thank goodness. The >> transaction is STILL live now, btw...I could still send the money. >> >> Yeah, I was surprised at his seemingly good feedback, too. According to it, >> he's your standard "A+++++++++ best ebayer ever! will do business again!" >> which is so meaningful and special as we all know, right? >> >> -- Peter >> pjfra...@mac.com >> >> On Oct 9, 2011, at 9:42 PM, The Farmers <g...@usfamily.net> wrote: >> >>> Yes, that does look like an exceptionally nice machine - wish I had seen it >>> and bid on it! And I could have just picked it up here in Minneapolis >>> since he offered free local pickup (ebay 370545662693). Somehow, when >>> someone advertises right in the eBay ad what the shipping will cost, most >>> buyers just figure that into their bid limit and so it makes no sense to >>> question it AFTER you bid. It really makes no difference to your pocketbook >>> to pay little for an item plus lots for shipping, or lots for the item and >>> little for shipping - that used to be a way sellers lowered eBay final >>> value fees until eBay started charging the fees on the shipping cost too. >>> >>> I just wonder about the problem since this seller had 2584 feedbacks with >>> 100% good feedbacks over the past 12 months, until now. Looks like a good >>> seller, except it certainly wasn't right for him to sell it elsewhere so >>> quickly. >>> >>> Sorry, I don't have the reproducer or the machine you are looking for. >>> >>> -- Greg Farmer >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Fraser" <pjfra...@mac.com> >>> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> >>> Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 10:27 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Columbia B Eagle and/or Columbia floating cylinder >>> reproducer wanted >>> >>> >>>> That's immaterial because you don't have the particulars, nor have you >>>> seen the communication. >>>> >>>> Too bad it turned out like this, but they turn up, and I'll certainly find >>>> one. His business practices and attitude were quite poor despite the best >>>> efforts of both me and eBay, so I thought I'd pass the warning along. I >>>> smelled a rat so held up payment, which was a real stroke of luck. >>>> >>>> -- Peter >>>> pjfra...@mac.com >>>> >>>> On Oct 9, 2011, at 6:44 PM, Vinyl Visions <vinyl.visi...@live.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> You won a nice original machine... original reproducer, original belt >>>>> cover (which is usually missing), original patent disc (which is often >>>>> missing and can cost $50 or more), original lid - overall nice machine - >>>>> not bad for $368 and $50 shipping - I wouldn't ship one for less than >>>>> $50, because of the inherent risk and required packing. I doubt that you >>>>> will find one in that condition for less... >>>>> >>>>>> From: pjfra...@mac.com >>>>>> Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 11:02:37 -0700 >>>>>> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org >>>>>> Subject: [Phono-L] Columbia B Eagle and/or Columbia floating cylinder >>>>>> reproducer wanted >>>>>> >>>>>> Hey gang - >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm looking for a Columbia model B "Eagle" graphophone, as well as a >>>>>> Columbia reproducer that is correct for an early (plain-case) Columbia >>>>>> AT. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any leads or offers? Thanks... >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm using the reproducer off my Q on the AT for now, but want it to have >>>>>> its own. >>>>>> >>>>>> And I won an Eagle on eBay last week, but the fraudster seller sold it >>>>>> out from under me when I tried to give him some safe shipping tips and >>>>>> questioned his exorbitant shipping charges. Beware seller Jason Kudrna >>>>>> of Minneapolis aka eBay ID "oraetlabora" - eBay has been notified. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> -- Peter >>>>>> pjfra...@mac.com >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Phono-L mailing list >>>>>> http://phono-l.org >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Phono-L mailing list >>>>> http://phono-l.org >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Phono-L mailing list >>>> http://phono-l.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Phono-L mailing list >>> http://phono-l.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.org > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
