> Hello, > > George Schlossnagle wrote: >> >> APC supports compiled code in the fashion I think you're looking for. >> There's a README.compiler in the distribution tar ball. > > I know, I use APC in MMAP mode and I noticed that it outputs PHP > compiled code for each script to disk. That is precisely what is > necessary. What is needed that is we can make it work officially as a > compiler, not just as a cache engines that may or may not output > compiled files to the disk. > > So, would you be interested in help to add the necessary glue to make it > work officially also as a compiler, if you do not intend to do it > yourself.
Sure. I'm not sure what glue you see needing adding, but I'm happy to help/ > > How Open Source is APC? Do you take volunteers help (patches, hackers > with CVS accounts, bug reports, etc..)? APC is completely open-source (release under QPL). Patches are awesome. CVS write-access is only for maintainers at the moment (and anon cvs to the world). There's noo hard-and-fast rule, but the base guideline for maintainer status is contribution fixes/patches of consistent merit and of more than 10% of the code base. > > I looked at all free cache engines (PHPA, APC, Bware). PHPA seems to be > going to non-Open Source route (no code available for everybody). Bware > people are nice and are willing to cooperate even if they don't have > much time. APC, I could not realize how alive the the project is. Do you > actively work on it or are you too busy? I haven't been very active since October (wish I could say it was a vacation, but alas, it was just work). In about 3 weeks, I should have much much more free time and hopefully be able to get back to being very active in apc. > > Regards, > Manuel LEmos > >> >> George >> >> On Wednesday, January 30, 2002, at 10:06 PM, Manuel Lemos wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Alain Samoun wrote: >>>> >>>> Manuel: >>>> In all fairness to the Zend people, you can get the compiler for >>>> $600/year >>>> or $50 per month. >>> >>> The unlimited Zend Encoder Unlimited costs $2400. Actually, I don't >>> see >>> any other Zend Encoder purchase option. >>> >>> Anyway, like a lot of other PHP users, I am not interested in >>> expensive >>> commercial solutions, even less those that tie me to those products >>> indefinetly. If people want to pay such fees to be fair to Zend or >>> just >>> to believe that what they got is good because it costed a lot of >>> money, >>> fine it is their problem. Now, it is true that a lot of people choose >>> PHP because it is a free and easy solution for their developments but >>> inlike with other languages there is no way to distribute a closed >>> source version of their software. >>> >>> That is the proposal. This is about PHP, not Zend Encoder or comercial >>> solutions. If people wanted to use Zend Encoder or any other >>> commercial >>> solutions, this thread would not have been even started. >>> >>> >>>> If it still look too expansive to you, compared to the free perl >>>> compiler, >>>> there is also a perl compiler that costs $5,000... >>> >>> Alain, be serious, Java compilers cost nothing. I know for a fact >>> that a >>> lot of people are discarding PHP because there is not an officially >>> supported and free solution to compiler and distribute PHP application >>> binaries when in Java and other languages that is a natural thing. >>> >>> This means that people drop PHP when they realize that it isn't as >>> easy >>> to protect their code to sell their applications. Until PHP developers >>> realize that it is important to make it easy for PHP users to sell >>> their >>> applications, PHP will be seen as a less appealing solution. >>> >>> >>>> Also, someone may be able to reverse the PHP code to C and create an >>>> exe >>>> with it (like Perl) . And last, but maybe the future: Web Services >>>> with >>>> SOAP? >>> >>> It should be not be that hard. There are Java bytecode to C >>> converters, >>> it should not be hard to make Zend bytecode to C conversion. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Manuel Lemos >>> >>> -- >>> PHP Development Mailing List <http://www.php.net/> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list- >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> >> // George Schlossnagle >> // 1024D/1100A5A0 1370 F70A 9365 96C9 2F5E 56C2 B2B9 262F 1100 A5A0 > > // George Schlossnagle // 1024D/1100A5A0 1370 F70A 9365 96C9 2F5E 56C2 B2B9 262F 1100 A5A0 -- PHP Development Mailing List <http://www.php.net/> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
