At 01:39 24/05/2002, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
>Well, HTML is an intrical part of the Web and I don't see how that can be
>compared to SOAP at all.  In order for SOAP to be part of the Web it needs
>to conform to the HTTP protocol and to the concepts that defines the Web.
>It doesn't do that at all today.  It has taken the URL and other HTTP
>header control data and completely mangled it by pushing content and
>commands over it that do not match the semantics of the HTTP header
>control data.
>
>Just because you tunnel something over port 80 to avoid being blocked by
>firewalls doesn't suddenly mean you are now a web protocol.  This argument
>is a current battle within the W3C where a lot of people would like to see
>SOAP kicked out of the organization.  Nobody has ever threatened to kick
>the HTML working groups out of the W3C.

Much like you can use HTML in stuff that has nothing to do with the web, 
you can use SOAP in stuff that has nothing to do with the web, and vice 
versa.  HTML has no inherent features that make it web specific, and the 
same is true for SOAP, and yet, they were both born on the web, even if 
they have other usages.  The specifics of SOAP are really beside the point 
here, for all practical purposes, SOAP has everything to do with the web.

Anyway, it was just an anecdote, if you think it has nothing to do with the 
web, it's your right.

Zeev


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