On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 02:03, Maxim Maletsky wrote: > On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 22:18:32 +0100 (CET) Derick Rethans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Sascha Schumann wrote: > > > > > Frankly, so far the discussion has been primarily > > > developer-focused, which is not too surprising. The > > > developers are rarely exposed to support requests from > > > newbies in various non-English forums. > > > > Thank god not; would you like to see your bugreports in french, or > > hebrew or finnish? If the error message is in a foreign language, people > > are going to report bugs in that language too, and I dont think QA is > > waiting for that. Even with an error number attached is going to be > > annoying; I myself would not even bother. > > > > > > > > If PHP is supposed to become easier to use, then native > > > language error messages would be a big hit. > > > > Who says that PHP needs to be even easier then it already is? I think > > with the millions of users there are we're doing pretty okay I'd say. > > > This can be easily avoided. When I have to report an Oracle error in > Italian on an English page, I simply type the error code. We need to > introduce error codes in PHP, that would really solve the trouble.
If we go for "errno"-style error codes, they will be context-sensitive, that is they have a meaning only when you know what call caused the code. ODBC-style error messages are less context-sensitive, but again more complex. It is unrealistic to think that good, localized, error messages can be done through just a code abstraction. That being said, I don't buy into the localized error message argumentation. I realize that PHP is being, or has the potential of being, used by people with poor English skills, but the language itself, along with its close to 2000 bundled functions, is in English. Would Italian error messages really make PHP more accessible for Italians when the functionfor getting stream context options is called stream_context_get_options()? PHP-generated error messages are for developers after all. - Stig -- PHP Development Mailing List <http://www.php.net/> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
