On Friday, December 7, 2018 at 10:19:46 AM UTC-6, Rasmus Schultz wrote:
>
> How is this in any way acceptable?
>

I'm strongly in favor of tests being in the same package as the thing being 
testing, and CI runs against that being part of the commit process, so in 
THAT one way I'd call it "acceptable".
However, I absolutely see your point about tying it to a specific testing 
framework, even if that framework is the de facto standard for composer 
based PHP projects.

Would you be less bothered by this if it were driven by PHP's own 
run-tests.php ?  That would give us reliable testing without any 
framework-favoring dependencies (depending on PHP is an avoidable given, 
after all).
 

> I'm calling for a bugfix release to remove these ASAP.
>
> I disagree with the urgency. Yes it's bad, and yes we should address 
fixing it, but nothing is broken *right now*, so we don't need to rush into 
it.

-Sara

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