Hi all,

> The package consists of interfaces - so there's nothing really to test,
> and there's no CI or anything like that set up. (and it wouldn't work if
> there were, because there's no dependency on PHPUnit although it's
> extending that class.)
>
> This test is for implementations - so these are literally tests for other
> packages.
>
> So yes, I'm entirely in favor of these tests residing in those packages -
> or a utility package, if the tests happen to be useful to other packages.
> (I'd go as far as naming that package with "phpunit" in the name, since
> these facilities aren't generic utilities - they're specific to phpunit,
> and the base-class depends on it.)
>
> > nothing is broken *right now*, so we don't need to rush into it
>
> I disagree - the damage is accumulating as people start to build things
> that depend on these facilities.
>
> At the very least, an immediate bugfix release with deprecations should be
> released, so that people get informed of the mistake before the problem
> gets worse.
>
> A mistake was made, and it's important to at least inform of that fact as
> quickly as possible - whether we do or don't actually remove it down the
> line at a later time... well, I'm not fond of things that light up red in
> my IDE because of undefined classes, but lets at least deprecate so people
> know it was a mistake?
>

I have been going through this thread and I want to agree with Rasmus here.

As php-fig is making interfaces there is no need for test packages. And if
needed this can be a util package. Better late than never ? Because things
will get worse with more time being given.

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