Demand is rising, insanely.  I left an NT Systems programming position for
a PHP position.  Not every company develops software, but almost every
company can benefit from a website/presence.

Most "large organizations" like turnkey solutions from large "notable"
companies.
This is one of ASPs strongest points.  However, as PHP grows, people will
notice.
Open Source ANYTHING still has a ways to go, but it's getting there.

-Szii


----- Original Message -----
From: Benjamin Munoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'Dean Hall' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; PHP General <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 11:37 AM
Subject: RE: [PHP] contracting & consulting (was "[PHP] Pricing for PHP
programming???")


>
> Great thread. When I was changing jobs in April of 2000, a recruiter told
me
> that PHP is "cool and all", but there is zero demand for developers of PHP
> web apps (in Los Angeles). Although I've been very productive developing
in
> PHP, he advised me to learn something else, b/c the demand just isn't
there.
> I prefer PHP for my web dev, but I'm still curious how accurate he was.
>
> I know that that Java/EJB/JSP and COM/ASP is in MUCH more demand, and
> therefore command a higher wage.  Demand vs supply, right?.  A search
today
> on monster.com for ASP in LA yields 142 listings, Java yields 262, JSP
> yields 32, Perl yields 105, PHP yields 16, cold fusion yields 16.
>
> -Has the demand changed much in your city since middle of last year?
> -Also, for developers who are proficient in several web dev environments,
is
> it mostly true that you use PHP for your own personal projects, but some
> other language for big corporate clients.
> -What is the perception of PHP for mid/large organizations with more to
> risk?
> -What can we as a developer community do to change this?
>
> Thanks, I'm very interested in others' opinions on this.
>
> -Ben
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dean Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 10:43 AM
> To: PHP General
> Subject: [PHP] contracting & consulting (was "[PHP] Pricing for PHP
> programming???")
>
>
> Somewhat related to the recent discussion on pricing for contractors, I
> thought I'd ask if anyone knows of any good resources to help budding
> contrators/consultants find their way around.
>
> I'm a skilled web developer, but I'm not so knowledgeable when it comes to
> law and conventions in the US for contractors and consultants doing web
> development (or anything else).
>
> If there are any good books or websites that talk about this type of
> self-employment, or if anyone has personal experience they wish to offer,
> please let me know.
>
> Thanks.
> Dean.
>
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