Actually, there is nothing wrong with a one-manned hosting service. I agree
with Robert in this, there are a lot of big hosting companies that don't
really have a personal hold of their business to really care about their
clients. To them everything is automated and all they do is hire customer
service people who are only taught to, well, "serve customers" with answers
to questions they don't know in the first place. They just read from the
script and have basic step-by-step trouble shooting instructions in front of
them to solve a client's problems/requests. If you need an updated software
package, like PHP4, froman old PHP3 engine, you'de have to beg for it and
you might have to go through several layers of support just for that request
to go through. Let me remind you that the software is free of charge. If the
request is accepted, then more power to you. If it's not then you'll have to
deal with it until you decide to find another host.

I have one question for you Robert. XML has been in the market for a long
time (since 1998), and the recommendations are now set to a true standard.
Why do most hosting services not have support for XML based languages yet?
Thanks...

Navid Yar



-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Covell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 2:40 PM
To: Boaz Yahav; Ben Peter; Chris Mason
Cc: Php-General
Subject: RE: [PHP] PHP hosting - the final frontier.


I shouldn't even reply to this...

Yes I would host with me.

Have you ever heard of a backup plan.  People that would step in if
something happens to me?  People that I trust to keep the company going if
it fails.

With all due respect, how do people host with a company that doesn't give a
rats ass about them or their business.  How many big companies redirect your
call, or brush you away when problems occur.  I been over backwards for my
clients.  Providing better service then many of the bigger companies out
there.  That is why people do and will continue to host with me.  Like I
said, I plan on hiring people in the near future.  Things take time to
evolve.

I am not saying that my company is for everyone.  If you don't like a one
man shop then don't go there.  People have taken a chance with me and have
not been disappointed like so many times before.

Sincerely,

Robert T. Covell
President / Owner
Rolet Internet Services, LLC
Web: www.rolet.com
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 816.210.7145
Fax: 816.753.1952

-----Original Message-----
From: Boaz Yahav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 1:38 PM
To: 'Robert Covell'; Ben Peter; Chris Mason
Cc: Php-General
Subject: RE: [PHP] PHP hosting - the final frontier.


And if, God forbid, something was to happen to you...
120 People / Companies would be left with a server
that no one knows the root password too?

With all due respect, how can someone in his
right mind host with a one man gang company?

For all I know you can be a hosting genius and
give the best service around  but you are still one
man.

Would you host with you ? :)

Sincerely

      berber

Visit http://www.weberdev.com Today!!!
To see where PHP might take you tomorrow.


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Covell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 9:16 PM
To: Ben Peter; Chris Mason
Cc: Php-General
Subject: RE: [PHP] PHP hosting - the final frontier.


I am going to have to disagree on this one.

I run a successful (and profitable) hosting company(http://www.rolet.com).
My employees total 1 (me, myself and I).  The number of clients hosted is
roughly 120.  I provide a wide variety of services on Linux, FreeBSD, NT,
and W2K.  Yes it is hard to believe that 1 person can be available 24x7, or
not take vacations, but this is what I do and LOVE every second of it.  I
value customer satisfaction and strive to provide that best Internet
services possible.  For me this is a career for life, not just a job.  So I
do believe that 1 person can be available 24x7 and not take vacations.
Don't get me wrong, some days it is tough.  I would like to have other
employees in the future, but don't mind the sacrifices taken to get there.

Sincerely,

Robert T. Covell
President / Owner
Rolet Internet Services, LLC
Web: www.rolet.com
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 816.210.7145
Fax: 816.753.1952



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ben Peter
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 11:59 AM
To: Chris Mason
Cc: Php-General
Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP hosting - the final frontier.


Chris,

This all sounds good but for one thing: I firmly believe that one man
with a root password is not enogh to look after even one client. I have
hosted with 3 one-man-companies, and it always came to the point where I
couldn't reach someone for a week, or I waited for 3 months, only to be
granted connect privileges to the mysql database - no offense meant! I
think it's just too much for one man, you cannot be available 24/7, and
you will want holidays.

Still, a PHP-specialized hosting environment would be worth much.

Cheers,
Ben

Chris Mason wrote:
>
> I see a lot of traffic regarding php hosting. From experience I know that
> the general hosting companies provide a minimal PHP environment which is
> often insufficient for PHP developers.
> With this in mind, I'm considering offering specialized hosting for PHP
> projects.
>
> The server will be tuned to the needs of PHP projects, and will have the
> latest PHP4 and mySQL versions, up to date XML libraries, IMAP and POP,
and
> will run php as a apache module for performance. The server will have a
low
> user count and I will offer migration alternatives as user's needs grow.
The
> machines will be hosted at a major data center with multiple large
internet
> feeds, and all the other essential requirements.
>
> I plan to be available to users to assist in configuration problems and
will
> stay abreast of developments in PHP to make our projects run faster and
> better.
>
> I'd like to hear from people interested in participating or with
> configuration suggestions. I'm not looking to start a large hosting
company
> but to be a specialized service provider on a small scale.
>
> Let me know what you think, guys.
>
> Chris Mason
> Box 340, The Valley, Anguilla, British West Indies
> Tel: 264 497 5670 Fax: 264 497 8463
> USA Fax (561) 382-7771
> Take a virtual tour of the island
> http://net.ai/ The Anguilla Guide
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