Just to make things clear, PHP/FI was the basis, not so many people
used it in comparison to PHP3/4. PHP3 was designed by more than one
developer (actually more like 4-6).
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Covell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 12:19 AM
To: Boaz Yahav; Ben Peter; Chris Mason
Cc: Php-General
Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP hosting - the final frontier.
I understand your concerns, but with this type of logic this mailing list
not not be around. Niether would Linux, Apache, MySql or anyother open
source tool that so many people utilize today. We would all be on NT
instead of Linux and using IIS with ASP instead of PHP. Do think Ramsus
when he started out on PHP/FI was thinking I am only one person I shouldn't
even try to make it because the big guys are more reliable. Or Linus
thought the same thing when he made his first kernel. I really doubt it,
and neither did I when I decided to take a chance learn PHP/FI on Linux
using Apache about 5 years ago. Look at where they are today and the
bazillion people who rely on the tools that one or two people took the time
and a chance on developing.
Sincerely,
Robert T. Covell
President / Owner
Rolet Internet Services, LLC
Web: www.rolet.com
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 816.210.7145
Fax: 816.753.1952
----- Original Message -----
From: "Boaz Yahav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Robert Covell'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Boaz Yahav"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Ben Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Chris Mason"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Php-General" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 3:29 PM
Subject: RE: [PHP] PHP hosting - the final frontier.
> No need to get upset :) just stating MHO (nothing personal).
>
> In your own words you say : "People have taken a chance with me"
> and that's really what they did. Cause you know what happens to
> backup plans that don't have backup plans that don't...
>
> I'm assuming that there may be an audience for this kind of hosting
> but personally I wouldn't host my site under such circumstances.
>
> Prices are so cheep today and you can get so much for so less with
> many ISP's that have a department of people running the show.
>
> As for the Service, well, if you chose a company and don't like the
service
> you can always go somewhere else. Most companies that I worked with
> gave amazing service.
>
> Today I work with PhenomiNET and the service is simply amazing.
> you can look at what they offer here :
>
> http://www.weberdev.com/index.php3?GoTo=phenominet/prices.htm
>
> This is your one stop shop for hosting. WeberDev.com is hosted there
> and I can tell you that their service is amazing. They are fast, reliable
> and more than anything, very professional (specially in PHP / MySQL).
>
> Sincerely
>
> berber
>
> Visit http://www.weberdev.com Today!!!
> To see where PHP might take you tomorrow.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Covell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 10:40 PM
> To: Boaz Yahav; Ben Peter; Chris Mason
> Cc: Php-General
> Subject: RE: [PHP] PHP hosting - the final frontier.
>
>
> I shouldn't even reply to this...
>
> Yes I would host with me.
>
> Have you ever heard of a backup plan. People that would step in if
> something happens to me? People that I trust to keep the company going if
> it fails.
>
> With all due respect, how do people host with a company that doesn't give
a
> rats ass about them or their business. How many big companies redirect
your
> call, or brush you away when problems occur. I been over backwards for my
> clients. Providing better service then many of the bigger companies out
> there. That is why people do and will continue to host with me. Like I
> said, I plan on hiring people in the near future. Things take time to
> evolve.
>
> I am not saying that my company is for everyone. If you don't like a one
> man shop then don't go there. People have taken a chance with me and have
> not been disappointed like so many times before.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Robert T. Covell
> President / Owner
> Rolet Internet Services, LLC
> Web: www.rolet.com
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Phone: 816.210.7145
> Fax: 816.753.1952
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Boaz Yahav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 1:38 PM
> To: 'Robert Covell'; Ben Peter; Chris Mason
> Cc: Php-General
> Subject: RE: [PHP] PHP hosting - the final frontier.
>
>
> And if, God forbid, something was to happen to you...
> 120 People / Companies would be left with a server
> that no one knows the root password too?
>
> With all due respect, how can someone in his
> right mind host with a one man gang company?
>
> For all I know you can be a hosting genius and
> give the best service around but you are still one
> man.
>
> Would you host with you ? :)
>
> Sincerely
>
> berber
>
> Visit http://www.weberdev.com Today!!!
> To see where PHP might take you tomorrow.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Covell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 9:16 PM
> To: Ben Peter; Chris Mason
> Cc: Php-General
> Subject: RE: [PHP] PHP hosting - the final frontier.
>
>
> I am going to have to disagree on this one.
>
> I run a successful (and profitable) hosting company(http://www.rolet.com).
> My employees total 1 (me, myself and I). The number of clients hosted is
> roughly 120. I provide a wide variety of services on Linux, FreeBSD, NT,
> and W2K. Yes it is hard to believe that 1 person can be available 24x7,
or
> not take vacations, but this is what I do and LOVE every second of it. I
> value customer satisfaction and strive to provide that best Internet
> services possible. For me this is a career for life, not just a job. So
I
> do believe that 1 person can be available 24x7 and not take vacations.
> Don't get me wrong, some days it is tough. I would like to have other
> employees in the future, but don't mind the sacrifices taken to get there.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Robert T. Covell
> President / Owner
> Rolet Internet Services, LLC
> Web: www.rolet.com
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Phone: 816.210.7145
> Fax: 816.753.1952
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ben Peter
> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 11:59 AM
> To: Chris Mason
> Cc: Php-General
> Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP hosting - the final frontier.
>
>
> Chris,
>
> This all sounds good but for one thing: I firmly believe that one man
> with a root password is not enogh to look after even one client. I have
> hosted with 3 one-man-companies, and it always came to the point where I
> couldn't reach someone for a week, or I waited for 3 months, only to be
> granted connect privileges to the mysql database - no offense meant! I
> think it's just too much for one man, you cannot be available 24/7, and
> you will want holidays.
>
> Still, a PHP-specialized hosting environment would be worth much.
>
> Cheers,
> Ben
>
> Chris Mason wrote:
> >
> > I see a lot of traffic regarding php hosting. From experience I know
that
> > the general hosting companies provide a minimal PHP environment which is
> > often insufficient for PHP developers.
> > With this in mind, I'm considering offering specialized hosting for PHP
> > projects.
> >
> > The server will be tuned to the needs of PHP projects, and will have the
> > latest PHP4 and mySQL versions, up to date XML libraries, IMAP and POP,
> and
> > will run php as a apache module for performance. The server will have a
> low
> > user count and I will offer migration alternatives as user's needs grow.
> The
> > machines will be hosted at a major data center with multiple large
> internet
> > feeds, and all the other essential requirements.
> >
> > I plan to be available to users to assist in configuration problems and
> will
> > stay abreast of developments in PHP to make our projects run faster and
> > better.
> >
> > I'd like to hear from people interested in participating or with
> > configuration suggestions. I'm not looking to start a large hosting
> company
> > but to be a specialized service provider on a small scale.
> >
> > Let me know what you think, guys.
> >
> > Chris Mason
> > Box 340, The Valley, Anguilla, British West Indies
> > Tel: 264 497 5670 Fax: 264 497 8463
> > USA Fax (561) 382-7771
> > Take a virtual tour of the island
> > http://net.ai/ The Anguilla Guide
> > Find out more about NetConcepts
> > www.netconcepts.ai
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