Hey!
So what do YOU offer me to do?
Should I use visual Hebrew (write a php3 script which will reverse Hebrew
words), or should I stick only to Logical Hebrew?
Thank you in advance -
Aviv Revach
At 17:50 28/02/01 -0300, Manuel Lemos wrote:
>Hello Boaz,
>
>How are you doing these days? :-)
>
>On 28-Feb-01 16:39:35, you wrote:
>
> >The figures I'm giving you are from one of the two biggest portals in
> >Israel.
> >it's less than 3%.
>
>Mind me for jumping in, but I think Aviv question about the truth of the 3%
>figure ie very pertinent.
>
>The way I see it it is a gross mistake to assume that the audience of a
>large portal is necessary a reflex of the potential audience of that portal.
>
>I also work for a large portal company (not for the Hebrew audience though)
>and I found people making the same large mistake. They looked at the sites
>audience and figure that there is over 90% of Internet Explorer users in a
>site that used IE specific DHTML. Needless to say that it didn't show
>right in Netscape.
>
>Given that sites do not show right in certain browsers, it looks obvious
>that almost nobody using those browsers would show in the browser audience
>rates.
>
>I even wonder why there are still 3% of users of browsers that do not
>support logical Hebrew display that go to your portal. Same for the 10% of
>Netscape users that go to that other site in my company portal. Maybe
>those are just lurkers that went there and gave up on the site and did not
>return because they could not see right what was in there.
>
>The reality is that it turns out that there is still about 30% os Netscape
>users, meaning that if you force a certain type of display that they don't
>see right, you loose their audience.
>
>Just my .02 EUR. :-)
>
>Manuel Lemos
>
>
>
> >I'm not sure about Opera, if you are developing for an Israeli
> >audience, you can simply develop for IE 4.x and up.
>
> >anyone with any other browser can go and get IE :)
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Aviv Revach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 4:03 PM
> >To: Boaz Yahav; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: [PHP] Hebrew websites transition with php3 ..
>
>
> >Hey!
>
> >Thank you for the quick reply.
>
> >I do have some questions regarding your answer.
>
> > From what I know and have seen so far, there are more than just 3%
> >Internet users in Israel which use Netscape 4.x (I use it myself...).
> >Are you sure that I should just ignore these people, and just use logical
> >Hebrew?
>
> >Also, quite a lot of people started using Opera lately.. (ain't speaking
> >about Israeli users).
> >Does Opera supports Logical Hebrew? If so, from which version?
>
>
> >Best Regards -
>
> > Aviv Revach
>
>
> >At 15:20 28/02/01 +0200, Boaz Yahav wrote:
> >>Hi Aviv
> >>
> >>Let me give you a small tip about Hebrew on the net.
> >>
> >>The proper Hebrew code which was adopted by the Israeli Institute of
> >>Standards
> >>is the Logical standard. This standard is automatically supported by IE 4.x
> >>and 5.x
> >>and also by Netscape 6.x.
> >>
> >>The percentage of not IE4.x or 5.x users in Israel is less than 3%.
> >>
> >>3 of the major portals in Israel (Walla, Nana and MSN) are already moving
> >to
> >>
> >>logical Hebrew.
> >>
> >>So why use Visual Hebrew?
> >>
> >>In case you decide to go with Visual in any case, did you try hebrevc()?
> >>
> >>Sincerely
> >>
> >> berber
> >>
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> >>To see where PHP might take you tomorrow.
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Aviv Revach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 1:43 PM
> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Subject: [PHP] Hebrew websites transition with php3 ..
> >>
> >>
> >>Hey!
> >>
> >>I've just joined this mailing-list, therefore, first of all, I would like
> >>to say hello to everybody.
> >>
> >>
> >>Now, regarding the issue..
> >>
> >>As some of you might know, handling with Hebrew websites is rather
> >>difficult. Hebrew words often come-out in reversed order (i.e. 'lmth'
> >>instead of 'html').
> >>
> >>I'm working on a php3 script which would help me do the following -
> >>Load an existing HTML file which consists Hebrew words (as well as English
> >>words and HTML tags), then reversing the Hebrew words back to order.
> >>
> >>The problem I'm dealing with is how to reverse only the Hebrew words and
> >>not the entire
> >>document, which contains HTML tags and English words as well.
> >>The function 'hebrev()' does the process of reversing, but it reverses tags
> >>as well.
> >>
> >>
> >>I would really appreciate it, if anyone will find some spare time to help
> >>me.
> >>
> >>
> >>Thank you in advance -
> >>
> >> Aviv Revach
> >>
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