On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 09:58 -0600, Boyd, Todd M. wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: APseudoUtopia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 9:12 AM
> > To: tedd
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PHP General
> > Subject: Re: [PHP] how to not show login info in the url ...what am I
> > looking for?
> > 
> > On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:03 AM, tedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > At 9:52 PM +0000 12/9/08, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
> > >>
> > >> You shouldn't be passing info like that over the URL; use sessions
> > >> instead.
> > >>
> > >> I saw a shopping cart system once that passed the price of items
> > over
> > >> the URL, and when I found out and alerted them, we won the contract
> > for
> > >> a rebuild and then got accused of hacking by their previous web guys
> > >> (who incidentally built the system!)
> > >
> > > Ash:
> > >
> > > Even if you did hack the site, all that means is that site was hack-
> > able and
> > > thus should have been fixed anyway.
> > >
> > > In my mind, hacking a site (without doing damage) is a good
> > introduction to
> > > a client.
> > 
> > *Ahem*....You mean 'cracking'? :-P
> 
> IMHO...
> 
> Cracking: breaking encryption/obfuscation methods in order to gain 
> unauthorized access to information. "I cracked the admin's password using a 
> brute force algorithm."
> 
> Hacking: circumvent or leverage security flaws in order to gain unauthorized 
> access to information. For example - "I hacked into the Gibson by re-routing 
> their logon routine." (No, that doesn't make any sense. Maybe it's straight 
> out of the movie "Hackers.")
> 
> I realize that people have been using "cracker" as a malicious form of 
> "hacker," and that a "hacker" is not malicious; but that is stupid. Cracking 
> started out dealing with cryptography in my experience, and that's how I will 
> continue to identify it.
> 
> Think about it--people were "safe crackers" (discovering the combination to 
> safety deposit boxes) before there were computers in existence.
> 
> My 2c,
> 
> 
> // Todd
I wouldn't really have called it either. When someone mentions hacking,
I think back to that wonderful old film with Angelina Jolie before she
went all weird! I think it can make a good impression, as it shows you
at least know more than the last developers they used, and knowledge
ain't a bad thing.


Ash
www.ashleysheridan.co.uk


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