2013/8/20 Steven Staples <sstap...@mnsi.net> > > My recent question was simply an attempt to get documentation to support > > which server-side Web Language is the most popular. Both PHP and Java can > > be used server-side. > > > > I also realize that Java is used for native Android because I also teach > > Mobile Application Development (MAD -- I even coined the name). So, I am > up > > to my butt in languages (and people who think different than me) -- I'm > > just trying to get documentation to back up my what I think I know. > > Well, technically any language can be used server side, it is all on how > you > set up your server, no? >
No. But since node.js I lack an example :D But of course you need the "link" between the language and the network. > > I would tend to think that the biggest out there, is html/php/javascript... > and next to that, would be asp, and then java. Do I have proof of this? > No, can I get proof, I doubt it, and are there stats on this? To be honest, > in my opinion, that would be like asking "how big is the internet?". It is > virtually an immeasurable object. There are so many websites out there, > that you can't search them all... > Of course you cannot search them _all_, but again the link: http://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/programming_language/all There are good hints, how "the internet looks like". For example a hoster can simply look at the products he sell. Services like w3techs.com use the reports from the server themself (in most cases the headers), or the file-ending (doesn't work anymore that good, since most sites hide them ;)) and extrapolate this. Of course they are not exact, but I think they show the direction quite accurate. > > PHP is simple, and yet powerful to use, and is pretty much the standard for > all hosting companies. > > Now, there is this link... > http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html > > It shows Java as #1, and php as #5, but this is also for PROGRAMMING, does > not specify web based programming vs desktop vs MAD (thanks tedd ;) ) so > the > numbers do not really speak out in this application. > Also it is the Tiobe-Index. Although it is widely-referenced, the way it calculates their rankings is ... interesting. In fact it only tells you how "loud" a community around a specific language is. So for example maybe Java is #1, because it is so complex, that it leads to many questions in forums and on stackoverflow. Or PHP is "only" #5, because most communication is on IRC, or mailinglists. (disclaimer: Of course I faked this examples. Actually I have no idea how the communities around Java and PHP "as a whole" interacts primary, but I don't think, that they are all equal). I just think, that the Tiobe-Index has a completely different view on "what is a popular language", than I have. > > Does it really matter? PHP is very huge, widely used, and I would even go > so far as to say the 'norm' for website developers, and hosting providers. > Nope, it doesn't matter :) > > But that is my $0.02, and for me, I have been with PHP for 7 years > professionally, and in college I took VB.net, ASP.net, C++, JAVA and PHP. > Only recently have I gotten into C# for desktop applications. > > > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- github.com/KingCrunch
