> >In this company, they have choose Microsoft stuff because they think it
> >is the right choice for what they do. For some things, PHP could be a
> >better choice, but it would be hard to convince who is in charge above
> >me because PHP does not benefit of a great credibility in the market
> >that would help me to make a good case to switch to PHP.
>
> In the US (and perhaps in the rest of America), that's relatively
> true. That's not the case in Europe or the far east. It has a lot to do
> with mentality and corporate culture.
I really disagree with you Zeev. I am from Portugal, Europe, and here the
idea
of "Microsoft is the best" still exist!
Hope this change in the near future!
Cheers
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zeev Suraski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 1:54 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [PHP] The future of PHP
>
>
> At 01:40 31-08-01, Manuel Lemos wrote:
> >Whoever hears you may even believe that Microsoft products and
> >supporting sites are successful because they don't have flaws. Sorry,
> >but honestely this sounds like an excuse for not doing it.
>
> Microsoft chooses which sites it links from microsoft.com *very*
> carefully
> - a very small select number of sites gets connected to it, and usually
> only for specific purposes (e.g., a specific article). If you draw a
> comparison to the PHP world, you actually proved my point.
>
> >The problem is not PHP-GUI capabilities being able to compete with other
> >languages. The problem is that you seem to be willing to omit them when
> >you present PHP as if it is something you don't want PHP be known for.
>
> I actually mention PHP-GTK in my sessions. I mention it as an anecdote,
> much like I mention some of the other interesting modules and projects in
> PHP (e.g., PEAR). I'm really not sure why people think I'm
> trying to bury
> PHP-GTK. Just because I don't see PHP-GTK as a main course of
> PHP, doesn't
> mean I don't think it's an important and useful project.
>
> >In this company, they have choose Microsoft stuff because they think it
> >is the right choice for what they do. For some things, PHP could be a
> >better choice, but it would be hard to convince who is in charge above
> >me because PHP does not benefit of a great credibility in the market
> >that would help me to make a good case to switch to PHP.
>
> In the US (and perhaps in the rest of America), that's relatively
> true. That's not the case in Europe or the far east. It has a lot to do
> with mentality and corporate culture.
>
> > This is my most
> >important point: to make PHP a credible well known solution in all
> >markets that it could be used with advantage.
>
> I don't think you'd find anybody who would argue with you about that.
>
> Zeev
>
>
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