Acer, what the f****k are you mumbling about?

(sorry for mine to you introduction)

600 people at PHP Dev Group (and I am one of them too) create and
document PHP Programming Language for free, because they like it this
way.

You, get your boss's money, buy a Zend's encoder, make a script that,
perhaps, has an equivalent freely available on sourseforge.net, encode
it and stick a it price to then sell the "cat in a lot" to those
paranoids who do not trust open source projects like your own boss does.

The "paranoids" then make services we all here pay, and on our spare
time - we keep developing the free code for you (always, because we like
it this way).

What are you trying to prove by being devil's lawyer here?

We all know how e-business works, most of us are actually on managing
positions if not job consultants.

So, Acer, from now on - ask a php-general question or answer one. Deal?


Sincerely,

Maxim Maletsky

PHP Beginner
www.phpbeginner.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Acer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 12:01 AM
> To: Rasmus Lerdorf
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding
> 
> Okay so you support zend but hate encoders.  Doesn't zend make an
encoder?
> To me an encoder is used to sell your product.  It doesn't mean people
> still
> won't release their code to add to the public knowledge.
> 
> If you didn't release your code rasmus then those 600 people won't
have
> made
> php what it is now so you can't have it both ways.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rasmus Lerdorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: August 3, 2002 2:06 PM
> To: Acer
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding
> 
> 
> Because it is a silly thread and I shouldn't be replying at all.
Others
> in the group either have more sense or have given up on answering
> php-general questions.
> 
> My view on encoders is that they are unnecessary and rather evil.  I
would
> never ever purchase a php-based application that did not come with the
php
> source code.  If you want to restrict your code somehow, do it through
a
> license.  People who choose to violate that license are the same
people
> who will hack your encoded scripts anyway.  And this way the honest
> customers will have the benefit of the code to customize, learn from,
> build on top of.  Closed source stuff stifles innovation and I
personally
> refuse to work on a PHP encoder for this reason.  Imagine if I had
never
> released the source for PHP?  We would not be having this discussion
> today.
> 
> I know plenty of people disagree with this view, but there you have
it.
> 
> -Rasmus
> 
> On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, Acer wrote:
> 
> > I made that statement because this subject has been brought up
several
> times
> > and nothing has been said from the php gods.  I mean out of this
whole
> > thread, your only comment is "That's probably the most uninformed
> statement
> > I have seen posted to this list in a very long time."
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rasmus Lerdorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: August 3, 2002 1:04 PM
> > To: Acer
> > Cc: Dennis Moore; Andrey Hristov; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding
> >
> >
> > > You'll never hear anything from the core php group since they are
a
> tight
> > > click so it's business as usual.
> >
> > That's probably the most uninformed statement I have seen posted to
this
> > list in a very long time.
> >
> > -Rasmus
> >
> >
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