Okay fine whatever. Let's just continue sticking our heads in the sand and pretend php developers isn't last on the list of jobs available compared to asp, jsp and cf developers.
That topic isn't important so back to normal and I'll ask a php question. What's the difference between = and ==? I'm too lazy to read the manual. -----Original Message----- From: Maxim Maletsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: August 3, 2002 7:42 PM To: 'Acer'; 'Rasmus Lerdorf' Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding Acer, what the f****k are you mumbling about? (sorry for mine to you introduction) 600 people at PHP Dev Group (and I am one of them too) create and document PHP Programming Language for free, because they like it this way. You, get your boss's money, buy a Zend's encoder, make a script that, perhaps, has an equivalent freely available on sourseforge.net, encode it and stick a it price to then sell the "cat in a lot" to those paranoids who do not trust open source projects like your own boss does. The "paranoids" then make services we all here pay, and on our spare time - we keep developing the free code for you (always, because we like it this way). What are you trying to prove by being devil's lawyer here? We all know how e-business works, most of us are actually on managing positions if not job consultants. So, Acer, from now on - ask a php-general question or answer one. Deal? Sincerely, Maxim Maletsky PHP Beginner www.phpbeginner.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Acer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 12:01 AM > To: Rasmus Lerdorf > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding > > Okay so you support zend but hate encoders. Doesn't zend make an encoder? > To me an encoder is used to sell your product. It doesn't mean people > still > won't release their code to add to the public knowledge. > > If you didn't release your code rasmus then those 600 people won't have > made > php what it is now so you can't have it both ways. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rasmus Lerdorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: August 3, 2002 2:06 PM > To: Acer > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding > > > Because it is a silly thread and I shouldn't be replying at all. Others > in the group either have more sense or have given up on answering > php-general questions. > > My view on encoders is that they are unnecessary and rather evil. I would > never ever purchase a php-based application that did not come with the php > source code. If you want to restrict your code somehow, do it through a > license. People who choose to violate that license are the same people > who will hack your encoded scripts anyway. And this way the honest > customers will have the benefit of the code to customize, learn from, > build on top of. Closed source stuff stifles innovation and I personally > refuse to work on a PHP encoder for this reason. Imagine if I had never > released the source for PHP? We would not be having this discussion > today. > > I know plenty of people disagree with this view, but there you have it. > > -Rasmus > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, Acer wrote: > > > I made that statement because this subject has been brought up several > times > > and nothing has been said from the php gods. I mean out of this whole > > thread, your only comment is "That's probably the most uninformed > statement > > I have seen posted to this list in a very long time." > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rasmus Lerdorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: August 3, 2002 1:04 PM > > To: Acer > > Cc: Dennis Moore; Andrey Hristov; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding > > > > > > > You'll never hear anything from the core php group since they are a > tight > > > click so it's business as usual. > > > > That's probably the most uninformed statement I have seen posted to this > > list in a very long time. > > > > -Rasmus > > > > > > -- > > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > > > > > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
