I stop now this discussion. I am not here to get constantly insulted. And I
even less inclined to repeat the same thing over and over as you obviously
not read my replies carefully.

Enjoy your day still,

On Jan 21, 2014 9:06 PM, "Hannes Magnusson" <bj...@php.net> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Pierre Joye <pierre....@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Hannes Magnusson <bj...@php.net> wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Pierre Joye <pierre....@gmail.com>
wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Hannes Magnusson <bj...@php.net>
wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Just because the people behind the tool have php.net accounts does
not
> >>>> mean that a tool developed outside the php.net domain is
automatically
> >>>> php.net property. This is not a corporate world that screws you over
> >>>> and you have not signed any contract with php.net forcing all your
> >>>> development to become php.net work. This is open source.
> >>>
> >>> This is total bullshit and I won't even try to argument how wrong it
is.
> >>>
> >>>> If the idea is to make it a PHP property, then we can import the
> >>>> github repo to git.php.net. That should be easy enough. Then karma
and
> >>>> all other php.net rules of engagement will apply.
> >>>
> >>> That's not a problem and should not prevent us to publish the results
> >>> to qa.php.net as many developers and RMs requested it.
> >>>
> >>> I will ping David or Tyrael to import the repo from github and that
> >>> should solve your only issue.
> >>
> >>
> >> Why couldn't you just have replied with "Sounds good, lets import it
> >> to git.php.net!" to the first mail rather then being such an asshole?
> >
> > Please take care of your tone.
> >
> > And I did, also you forgot that this project is many years old, way
> > before we even had travisci support or the like. We have been testing
> > all commits and releases using it and provided critical feedback since
> > then. Back then git was not available in php.net and we were not
> > willing to deal with svn, just like many pecl extensions. Arguing
> > about code not being under git.php.net was a non issue, sorry.
>
>
> How is any of this related to a) you being an asshole or b) this
> project not being developed under php.net?
>
> There are literally millions of projects that are outside of php.net
> and that is awesome! The more the better!
>
> The more datapoints we have, the better!
> Matt and buddies have receieved requests to make these datapoints
> public because it was not available to php.net developers that would
> like to get their hands on it - because it wasn't developed as a
> php.net project.
> Although it may have been used by a specific group, that also has
> affiliation to php.net, there is a clear distinction.
>
> Now it seems like the project would like to join the php.net umbrella
> and that is fantastic news!
>
> With you however being an asshole and arguing unrelated crap as usual
> is not helping anyone and you should stay away and let the adults
> talk. We were doing just fine before you joined this thread.
>
>
>
>
> >> Things become much easier when you act like an adult - not to mention
> >> how massive waste of time your attitude brings.
> >
> > Excuse me but your constant opposition and FUDs spreading about
> > "corparates", "non contributors" and other totally respect-less
> > replies to the various php.net lists cause more damage than anything
> > else. And as soon as you do it with one of the guys I work with (be
> > professionally or in my free time), I will jump in the discussion and
> > put the things back to their (right) place. Whether we like it or not
> > is not really relevant.
>
>
> What is wrong with you now?
> You suddenly believe that the work of everyone that has contributed to
> php.net to be a php.net project?
> Of course not.
> Most php.net contributors have plenty of other projects they are
> working on. It doesn't make those projects php.net projects. While
> developed outside of php.net umbrella there is no way php.net will be
> forcing its pov over anything.
>
> If the authors would however like to move the project into php.net
> umbrella then fantastic!
>
>
>
> >
> > Now, if any of my replies has been insulting, please accept my
> > apologizes. But I don't see any insulting replies but facts being
> > presented in an objective (and somehow direct) manner.
>
> Great, then we agree! Thanks for you understanding in this matter.
>
>
> However, since you don't have single commit to the repo, you cannot
> force Matt to move his project to php.net
> https://github.com/OSTC/PFTT2/graphs/contributors
>
> If Matt would like us to import the repo, then I'll do that right away
> and make sure he has karma to qaweb and whatever else he needs to work
> on the integration.
>
> -Hannes

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