On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 13:35, Robinson Tryon <bishop.robin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > If The PHP Doc Group believes that the CC-BY provides a framework > under which a simple attribution line like that is sufficient, then I > suggest they grease the wheels and calm the lawyers by clarifying it > with an explicit, very permissive license like the New BSD or MIT.
I'm of the opinion that we should license all machine-interpretable examples (i.e. - "code snippets") in both the official documentation usage examples and user-submitted examples alike - including those from the mailing lists and archives - under either the MIT or New BSD license, so it was good to see someone else mention those two explicitly. A simple ratification to the license information pages would suffice. Exempli gratia: "The PHP manual text and user-submitted comments are released under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 License, Copyright (C) the PHP Documentation Group, with the exception of machine code regions (AKA - "code snippets") in the documentation or freely submitted by the public, which is licensed under [MIT/NBSD]." That said, in all technicality, anything presently in existence on the site is licensed under the CC-BY license, plain and simple. It would not be difficult to prove it in court, as there are literally thousands of third-party points of reference as to what code was present during the Attribution licensing. It's not an interpretable, subjective case - it's black-and-white reality. Exhibit A existed at Date-And-Time B, whereby it was legally restricted under License C. One argument could exist, though, in the case that a user submits a code snippet also licensed under the CC-BY license. This could create a legal paradox: the code submission would be licensed under the CC-BY attributed to the Docs Group, with dual required attribution to the submitter. Only under this case, however, could it be true. A user claiming release under a less-restrictive license would then be overruled by the agreement during submission that it becomes the property of the Docs Group, with the current license taking immediate effect. Conversely, a more-restrictive license than any currently in place would effectively nullify the validity of the submission (which should force its removal), because any license of greater restriction would explicitly disallow re-licensing by any party other than the Intellectual Property (IP) holder. It is for this reason I remove any and all notes mentioning licensure in any form. Further, because all Copyright is transferred by agreement from the submitter - of his/her own free accord - during the submission process, any claims to Copyright of any submission or portion thereof is also removed immediately upon discovery. -- </Daniel P. Brown> Network Infrastructure Manager Documentation, Webmaster Teams http://www.php.net/