On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Robinson Tryon
<bishop.robin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Philip Olson <phi...@roshambo.org> wrote:
>>
>> I avoid the topic of licenses whenever possible but let's make a decision. 
>> It feels like most would prefer dual licensing for code snippets (despite 
>> GPL and PHP not getting along all that well, ever) so let's do that.
>> Does someone here have a lawyer friend who will look over the proposed 
>> change?
>
> Sure, I'm happy to take point on that. I'll pass along the information
> from this thread and let the list know as soon as I hear something
> back from the lawyers.
>

Hi guys,

I've heard back from the lawyers and received some very helpful
information about dual-licensing the documentation and dealing with
copyright assignment. (General disclaimer: IANAL, and this advice
should be construed as nothing more than my advice)

Based on my conversations, here's a licensing paragraph that can be
used on the PHP licensing page (and on individual pages of the manual,
if desired):

"The PHP manual is Copyright (C) the PHP Documentation Group, and is
released under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 License. All
example code in the documentation or freely submitted by the public in
"user notes" is additionally licensed under the New BSD License."

Regarding copyright assignment, it appears that the law is quite
strict about the matter, requiring actual signatures from individuals
to complete the transfer. That kind of requirement seems like enough
hassle than it might discourage people from contributing user notes,
which is definitely something that we all want to avoid. But don't get
discouraged yet! Based on what I've heard from the lawyers, we don't
necessarily need copyright assignment to include user notes in the
manual. Instead of requiring assignment, we can just require a license
from the individual to the PHP Documentation Group.

Here's a draft of how the ToS could read:

"To improve the PHP Manual, information from user notes may be
periodically incorporated into the primary documentation. By
submitting a user note you attest that all contributions are your own
and grant the PHP Documentation Group a license to use the content of
the user note in the documentation under the same terms as the primary
documentation, as well as the right to re-license the content should
the license of the PHP Manual change. Content that violates any
copyrights will be deleted. See the Licensing Page for details."


On a related note, is there any further clarification about who
comprises "The PHP Documentation Group" ? It might be helpful to get
that sorted out at the same time as the dual-licensing of the
documentation, particularly as the documentation license specifically
refers to the Group, and they appear to hold the role of shepherds of
the manual, user notes, and license.


Cheers,
-- Robinson

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