On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Hannes Magnusson < hannes.magnus...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Kris Craig <kris.cr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Hannes Magnusson > > <hannes.magnus...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >> > And yes I've had the account since 2010. It's all on the list. And I > >> > do > >> > >> I know you requested an account on August 9th 2010, and later followed > >> it up in September and again in October. > > > > > > As I recall, actually, I only followed-up once. But I could be > mistaken; it > > was two years ago, after all. > > That is why we have archives: > http://php.markmail.org/thread/jueltca2ssd7ujmw > > > >> At somepoint someone approved your account, but at that point in time > >> the approval notice was not sent to a public list. That didn't change > >> until I fixed that earlier this year. > >> Which means I don't know who approved your account - because that > >> person never gave you any karma at all at any time, as you can clearly > >> see by looking at the global_avail file. > >> That is however not really relevant information, just would be > >> interesting to know. > > > > > > I'm pretty sure the approval was on the open list, though he may have > > forgotten to do a reply-all. I'll have to look through my inbox. I > don't > > remember who it was off the top of my head. > > > I am not telling you how I think the system works. I am telling you > this is how it works. > Approving a VCS account request is a manual thing done by pressing a > "approve" button on master. > This button used to only generate an email to the requester, and to > group@. No public records. > That mail furthermore did not used to contain who actually approved the > account. > > Unless someone mailed you directly, you wouldn't know who approved it > - again, at that point in time. > This is no longer the case with today approvals/rejections. > > > >> > remember being able to edit the PHP.net man pages without the Docbook > >> > editor. I know I'm not crazy on this, so maybe we're referring to > >> > separate > >> > things? I'm not sure. But either way, I have made edits before > >> > >> What does that mean? How did you edit the files? Where did you commit > >> them? > >> Do you have a concrete example? > >> Searching my mailbox shows you have only ever used your account to > >> submit couple of bug tickets, and comment on two or three. > > > > > > I'm not sure. This was all the way back in 2010. I remember the UI was > > very different though. But if what you say is true and it was always > > Docbook, then the only logical explanation is that I'm remembering > something > > else. > > We did have "the OE" in 2010. And that is the *only* UI we have ever had. > > > > I have used this account primarily for updates to the Wiki thus far. > I've > > also done some comments and handled a few bugs. In addition, I > submitted an > > RFC and it passed unanimously, though I'm still (slooowly) getting my new > > dev environment setup so I haven't committed the code change to Git yet. > > > bugsweb and wikiweb karma comes with the approval of an VCS account. > Same with editing/reject user notes and community events. > > I know you have made about dozen or so comments on bug reports using > your php.net account. > > I'm not questioning if you have an account or not. I am telling you > you do have an account, but without any VCS karma. > > I cannot find any traces by you in the form of VCS commits. Be it to > CVS, SVN or GIT. > > > > > > I've been encouraged to start helping maintain the online docs, which > seems > > like a good idea since there's a definite need for it and it's something > I > > can help with while I'm getting my dev environment setup. That's when I > ran > > into this brick wall. The sooner it's fixed, the sooner I can start > making > > myself a little more useful than I have been as of late. > > > > Fantastic! > The online editor is a perfect tool for the job. > > > > > >> > >> > >> > successfully, I do have an account with Git/SVN privs, I do have full > >> > edit > >> > privs on the wiki, and this account was approved through the proper > >> > channels. > >> > >> Everyone with php.net VCS account has full wiki karma. You don't need > >> VCS karma for that. > >> Again, I know you have VCS account, and know you have uploaded your SSH > >> key. > >> > >> > >> > So, if this isn't the correct list, please tell me which one is > instead > >> > of > >> > just being condescending and disrespectful. I haven't been > >> > disrespectful > >> > towards you and I would appreciate the same consideration to be > >> > reciprocated. But regardless of that, I should have commit privs in > >> > Docbook > >> > so if this isn't the place to inquire about it, please tell me whom to > >> > contact and I'll do so. > >> > >> phpdoc@lists.php.net is the appropriate list. > >> As for doc commit karma, Philip and I hand most of them out. > > > > > > Ok, so should I contact Philip or do you have time to take care of this? > > > I want you to show us a patch, just like anyone else, before we grant > you any karma. > > -Hannes > Ugh.... If I'd known this wasn't already setup, I'd have thrown together a patch and sent it out two years ago. Somebody did email me directly but I don't remember whom; I'll have to go back and find out. Would you prefer a doc patch or a code patch, or does it matter? Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure I sent a code patch for including seasonal calculations in the date() function back in 2010 (either as part of the original request or subsequently, I'm not sure). Can you find it? If so, why was that patch not sufficient? Was it simply overlooked or did I do something wrong? --Kris
