On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 6:16 AM, Hannes Magnusson <hannes.magnus...@gmail.com> wrote: > > It isn't scaling, but we do have crapload of people with php.net > karma, and all of them have the ability to edit/reject notes.. Most > simply don't know it. > I think we should try to reach out the individual extension > maintainers and get them to review their own pages.
That's a really good idea, Hannes. I vastly reduced my moderation activity this spring in hopes others would think I was killed by a bear and would join in. Having each extension's author look through periodically, though, would be a great help. Derick used to prune the time sections every few months, but I think he's just gotten so busy that he really just doesn't have the.... well.... time. Unfortunately, though, I'm not sure how many people would actually want to be bothered, and without using firearms, there's little we can do to force them. Those that would might not have the time or interest in doing so regularly or diligently. In general, the user notes are used pretty significantly, particularly for the code snippets, "gotchas," and workarounds to upgrades or BC issues. I get emails several times per month with people referring directly to a note here or there. Outsourcing it, in my opinion, is a bad idea for a variety of reasons, which would go beyond the scope of this email. And, Adam, while that's really quite impressive that you'd taken the time and effort to put stats together (and, in many cases, I'd be inclined to agree with your rating), it's all subjective. That said, things I've done to try to reduce the "fluff" (read: crap) in the notes have failed miserably --- and that's putting it lightly. I mean that it's been met with such catastrophic failure that the Hindenburg looks like a roller coaster for small children by comparison. I've followed up with contributors who left a valid email address to discuss ways to improve their note and resubmit it for acceptance. I added explicit "what not to enter" information. I even tried placing an XKCD comic as a masthead on the note submission page to grab attention. In all, it seems we can't prevent the milk from spilling, we can only clean up the mess after. I don't know exactly what the solution is, but I do believe it is best managed in-house. -- </Daniel P. Brown> Network Infrastructure Manager http://www.php.net/