George.

The brain DOES NOT take in light similar to a movie camera's film mechanism.
It "sees" light as a continuous stream.  It is only through mechanical
processes that wheels appear to be turning backwards whilst the vehicle is
moving forward.

So there!

sreehC

Alan


----- Original Message -----
From: "George L Smyth" <glsm...@yahoo.com>
To: <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????>
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Human eye


> While light does stream in continuously, the brain takes it in similar to
a
> movie camera's film.  This is why you may see a bicycle's tires appear to
move
> backwards as it goes forwards.
>
> Cheers -
>
> george
>
>
>
> --- erick...@hickorytech.net wrote:
> > Another thing occurs to me. The camera analogy is also limited by the
fact
> > that camera shutters open and close, while light streams into the human
eye
> > continuously. The operative 'shutter speed" would have to be the
duration of
> > exposure to the rod or cone required to trigger nerve conduction. I
don't
> > know whether there is a trasmission period followed by a refractory
period,
> > which would equate to shutter speed, or not.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <erick...@hickorytech.net>
> > To: <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 11:30 AM
> > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Human eye
> >
> >
> > > Here is some information I have. How it applies I'm not sure. The eye
is
> > > only the aperture, lens and sensing apparatus. Because the eye is
attached
> > > to the brain it would make more sense to use a digital camera as a
model
> > > rather than film camera. The mind can read an image and give a
response in
> > > as little as 0.04 seconds- a professional pingpong players response
time,
> > > for instance. Nerve transmission time mind to brain can be measured by
> > > measuring cortical evoked potential responses to visual stimuli. I
might
> > > have once know the limiting values but I don't recall them. A big name
in
> > > research in this area is Meichenbaum, if you want to look it up. As
for
> > > aperture, the lens to retina distance is roughly 25 mm. Maximum pupil
> > size,
> > > i.e. aperture diameter, is maybe 8 mm in an adult, so the maximum F
stop
> > > would be 25/8= 3.1. Minimum aperture would be about 25/2 for
'pinpoint"
> > > pupils, an F stop of 12.5. I think that the eye processes light
sensation
> > > somewhat differently at low light levels, so "film speed" would be a
> > guess.
> > > Remember too that the eye and brain cannot distinguish as separate
images
> > > any sequence more rapid than about 14/second. That is the basis for
movies
> > > and television, sequences of still images projected faster than the
eye
> > can
> > > distinguish, thus blending them into apparent continuous motion.
> > >
> > > I----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "George L Smyth" <glsm...@yahoo.com>
> > > To: <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????>
> > > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 10:53 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Human eye
> > >
> > >
> > > > On 22 Jul 2002, at 11:16, eco...@aol.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I know this is not strictly pinhole, but I wondered if
> > > > > anyone had access to the average human eye values for the
> > > > > camera variables. ie Respective - film speed, shutter speed,
> > > > > aperture, focus range, depth of field etc. Thanks
> > > > >     Ellis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > When I looked into shutter speed many years ago, I came upon the
> > > conclusion
> > > > that the eye's shutter speed is approximately 1/100 second.  You can
> > > verify
> > > > this by taking successive pictures of a waterfall.  We all know that
> > > slowing
> > > > down the shutter speed to a second or more will make for silky
water,
> > > which is
> > > > not what we see.  From there, take pictures with faster and faster
> > speeds
> > > > (don't forget to take notes).  When you get the results, compare the
> > > pictures
> > > > with what you see and make the decision for yourself.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers -
> > > >
> > > > george
> > > >
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