In all seriousness, what, if anything, should we be doing about this? Do we need to change the project name? Are there other options? This is obviously a big deal for us because any re-branding is going to take time and is likely to hold up any announcements about our recent graduation.
Greg On Dec 17, 2009, at 2:15 PM, Lawrence Rosen wrote: > I prefer to be thought of as having a delightful sense of humor. Even cranky > people can be subtly funny. :-) > > /Larry > > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mark Miller [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 11:09 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: ASF Board Meeting Summary - December 16, 2009 >> >> Apache's TM attorney is either ridiculously cranky or has a delightful >> sense of humor. I'm not sure which myself. >> >> - Mark >> >> Todd Volkert wrote: >>> Didn't mean to offend, Larry - just trying to figure this situation >> out. >>> >>> -T >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Lawrence Rosen <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> WTF? >>> >>> >>> >>> ASF already has a trademark attorney. Me. Please tell your >>> trademark lawyer friend to mind his own business. Say it >>> politely. I'm sure his opinion wasn't meant to contradict >>> mine-but it does. >>> >>> >>> >>> Did you or he write that absurd opinion on an Apple (TM) >>> computer. Using Windows (TM)? >>> >>> >>> >>> /Larry >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Todd Volkert [mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>] >>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:50 AM >>> >>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> *Cc:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> *Subject:* Re: ASF Board Meeting Summary - December 16, 2009 >>> >>> >>> >>> Just talked to a trademark lawyer friend of mine, and he >>> emphasized that you can't trademark a common word in the English >>> language (like "Pivot") - you can trademark a sequence of words, >>> like "Microsoft Pivot", a graphic, a jingle, etc. So what >>> exactly did MS trademark -- "Microsoft Pivot"? If so, then I'd >>> think we're in the clear to use "Apache Pivot"... >>> >>> -T >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Greg Brown <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> FWIW, all of our public communications introduce the project as >>> "Apache Pivot" but often later use the shortened "Pivot" form to >>> avoid unnecessary verbosity. Not sure if this is relevant, but I >>> thought I would mention it. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Dec 17, 2009, at 12:07 PM, Todd Volkert wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Tho has it been using "Pivot" or "Apache Pivot"? And how >>> long has msft >>> been using their "Pivot" (unregistered) mark? >>> >>> >>> It's been "Apache Pivot". As far as I can tell, Microsoft only >>> publicly announced their Pivot project in late November '09. >>> >>> Forgive my ignorance, but what's the process towards getting >>> this resolved? It stands to reason that we shouldn't migrate >>> our infrastructure and such until we make sure that we're ok to >>> keep the name "Apache Pivot", but how is that determination made? >>> >>> -T >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >
