About 20 years ago I posted to a tech list that I thought H1B was a bad thing and I got roasted.

On 2022-12-29 19:40, George Toft via PLUG-discuss wrote:
You won't be replaced by a machine.  You will be replaced by someone willing to do your job for $20-25 per hour.

I've seen postings in a large company that stated they were paying Tata Consultancy $66K for H1B DBA's.  Tata takes 33%, which means the H1B Visa worker gets $44K, or $22/hr.

Regards,

George Toft

On 12/28/2022 6:14 PM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:
Let me say that I think people need to make a fair wage.

I had a conversion with a guy maybe 8 years ago.  He was pushing a raise in minimum wage.  He was a big shot in Silicon Valley.  I told him what my econ prof said : "Alternatives become more available as the price of any given thing rises."  He premised this by saying Phelps Dodge does not want copper to go over $1 a pound. It was in the late 80's. I thought he was crazy until he mentioned alternatives.  According to this prof aluminum became viable once copper went over $1/lbs.

I went on to tell the Silicon Valley guy he and his cronies where the ones that would benefit from excessive minimum wage.  He seems shocked.  Now we see the proof.

Today automation is cheap and labor is not so cheap.  Machines break down, however they never call in sick or not do their job, and they will work 24/7 w/o benefits. This article says two things to me.

Unskilled labor is about to be hardcore unemployed and the jobs that will be available will be for those who have leaned some skills.

I'm thinking at some point in the future I will be replaced by a machine.  I am a programmer.  The world will be ruled by the engineers.



On 2022-12-28 10:20, Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss wrote:
The article says there are people there to tend cash register and a couple of other things.

On Wed, Dec 28, 2022, at 10:00, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote:
Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss said on Wed, 28 Dec 2022 07:22:37 -0700

Thought you might find this interesting.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/mcdonalds-unveils-first-automated-location-social-media-worried-will-cut-millions-jobs

Sounds like a good idea, but I pay with cash, and I don't like putting my twenty dollar bill in a machine, with no witnesses, and taking the chance that the machine will simply eat my bill, with no audit trail.

SteveT

Steve Litt
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