Excerpts from Joshua Zeidner's message of Mon May 17 22:14:09 -0700 2010: > I can respect that Tuna, but keep in mind that people say politically > charged things all the time here without problem. It's when we arrive at > loaded topics like illegal aliens that suddenly registers as 'trolling'. > The fact is this issue effects us all, even as developers or Linux users, > and most certainly as Arizonan residents. Trying to blot out the discussion > is just as caustic. The fact that David seems tacitly supportive of groups > like La Raza make it even more alarming. > > I don't see why people who hold perfectly valid opinions with regards to > illegal aliens should feel alienated *in their own country*. Enough of this > PC crap. > > -jmz >
No question the topic swelled to 70+ posts because many find this more inflammatory than others. I am only attempting to treat the effect, a 70+ post thread of worthless hissy fits. I would have posted my lovely ASCII art if this was a discussion of traffic light bias, horseradish recipes, gay marriage, animal rights, a new proposed sales tax, thebanning of "your mom" jokes on the lightrail, or the availability of finger sandwiches in downtown Tempe. > On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Tuna <t...@supertunaman.com> wrote: > > > Excerpts from Joshua Zeidner's message of Mon May 17 21:44:38 -0700 2010: > > > To the rest, > > > > > > > > > you're trying to tell me a few emails in your inbox is so absolutely > > > painful you're going to throw a fit or something? > > > > > > > At the time of writing, this thread is 67 messages long. That's more than a > > few. Easy to ignore in my GMail-style threaded email client, although it > > does > > take about a minute to open this thread. > > > > > no, you just don't like what is being said... but guess what- this > > > issue is now front and center and as far as I'm concerned there is no > > > controversy here if you are an concerned Arizonan. > > > > > > > It's not that we don't like it, or even that we don't care. It's simply the > > wrong place, and therefore trolling. > > > > We respect your political opinions, and many of us may even agree. But > > please, > > not on plug-discuss. This is not your personal enraged-chain-mail-list, or > > your > > television audience. This is a (shrinking) group of hobbyists and > > professionals > > that like to talk about Linux. > > > > > > > > -jmz > > > > > > On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Joshua Zeidner <jjzeid...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Tuna, > > > > > > > > We were discussing macro economic trends that effect all linux > > > > developers as well as issues pertaining to Arizona and Linux. Just > > because > > > > some deem the issue of illegal aliens to be out of bounds does not mean > > we > > > > terminate the discussion whenever we arrive at the subject. Of course > > some > > > > people don't like it being discussed. Those are the people who want to > > > > prevent action from being taken. There are some of these people on > > this > > > > thread. How can we discuss anything these days without addressing > > *what is > > > > right in front of our faces every day*!? > > > > > > > > The fact is everyone, this country is in deep doo doo. It's not a > > > > laughing matter. Anyone who was at the Sharpton rally will tell you > > that > > > > these people are violent and they most certainly are un-american. Our > > state > > > > is broke, as are many other states. Our ability to maintain our > > technology > > > > sector will rely heavily on our ability to stabilize ourselves > > politically. > > > > This means *your job*. It might even be an opportunity to position > > > > ourselves profitably relative to California. Discussion is absolutely > > > > critical to moving in the right direction. Don't let people blow the > > issue > > > > out of proportion or try to turn it into some racial battleground. > > > > > > > > That being said, you may now return to complaining about COX > > service or > > > > whatever other stuff is 'on topic'. > > > > > > > > -jmz > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Tuna <t...@supertunaman.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >> /| _______ > > > >> / | __-- --__ |\ > > > >> | \_-- --_ / | > > > >> | ) \/ | > > > >> \__/ / > > > >> ) ________________,-` > > > >> / 0 .. 0 | > > > >> / /| | , > > > >> \ ,__ / | \/ | > > > >> \ ```````````````````) > > > >> \______________________/ > > > >> ILLEGAL ALIEN IS ILLEGAL > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> I created this ascii art myself, and hereby release it into the public > > > >> domain. > > > >> > > > >> Congrats, Zeidner. > > > >> > > > >> Excerpts from Joshua Zeidner's message of Sun May 16 12:54:33 -0700 > > 2010: > > > >> > Hello PLUG, > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > I am wondering if anyone is switching off Apple products due to > > the > > > >> recent > > > >> > Los Angeles boycott of Arizona: > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/05/12/20100512los-angeles-boycott-vo > > > >> > te-over-arizona-immigration-law12-ON.html > > > >> > > > > >> > < > > > >> > > http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/05/12/20100512los-angeles-boycott-v > > > >> > ote-over-arizona-immigration-law12-ON.html> > > > >> > Hopefully > > > >> > they will choose Linux. > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > -jmz > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
