I am reading your advise Ted - I must amit that I have no f.... idea what
you are talking about.

Perhaps I am not from the same gang to get your references and
abbreviations.

Just saying
-T

On Wed, Jun 10, 2026, 11:32 Ted Mittelstaedt <[email protected]> wrote:

> At risk of SOUNDING insulting - which I am not - I'm being truthful - and
> the truth is hard for some people - and I don't apologize for that - this
> is only a problem for people who are amateurish enough to put a cell phone
> or other personal telephone number on a domain name listing.
>
> I've had my real contact info - including telephone number - on
> Portlandia-it.com ever since it was registered.  The phone goes to my
> Asterisk server which has the usual voice response unit  (press 1 for X
> press 2 for Y, etc.)
>
> No problems whatsoever with spam calls.
>
> If you are a personal individual setting up a domain name then that is why
> the privacy stuff was created and your contact info is going to be "
> [email protected]" with a phone number of 8675309 and
> anyone seeing that is going to know what you are.  Nothing wrong with that.
>
> The people with the complaints are the people who are individuals, and
> small, who are trying to pass themselves off as being something they are
> not.
>
> The problem isn't putting your real contact info on your whois record.
> That is something you MUST do to pass yourself off as "looking like a
> bigger company" if that is what your game is.   The problem is if you are a
> minnow pretending to be a whale - you need to go whole-hog and get the PBX
> with the VRU and all the rest of it.
>
> That's what I did.  And what I ended up getting sometimes was contacts
> from would-be clients who were the ones looking for the larger whales with
> the bureaucracy's that entire purpose of existence is to bow to them and
> jack up their self esteem.  They didn't want to hear the truth about how
> technically impossible their idiotic demands were, either, when I told it
> to them.  That was fun, for a while.  Then it sort of got boring.
>
> It never ceases to amaze me how some people will pay 3x the money for the
> same service they can get from a sole proprietorship as from a larger
> regional organization just so they won't be "fired as a customer" from the
> larger organization when they start acting like jerks.
>
> PLUG is a minnow.  That's not bad.  Minnows can do what the F they want,
> and say what the F they want to anyone they want (even when the truth is
> inconvenient) and minnows don't have to pet and stroke people and be
> politically correct so someone's nose does not go out of joint.  Therefore
> things will be easier for everyone to do what minnows do and use the
> proxies and their 1-800-NOT-HEAR phone numbers on registrations.
>
> It's not like they can't go to the website and send an email!
>
> Ted
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PLUG <[email protected]> On Behalf Of George
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2026 12:21 AM
> To: Portland Linux/Unix Group <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] supplemental domain name
>
> Oh good. Pass that info around. It happened immediately. Scammers scrape
> the db for names with address and phone numbers. -gbk
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2026, 12:18 AM Russell Senior <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > "whois linux.portland.or.us" has no data.
> >
> > "whois portland.or.us" leads to the org that delegated linux to us.
> >
> > On 6/10/26 00:12, George wrote:
> > > Uh oh. .us does not allow for an anonymous whois identity listing.
> > > You'll find a sharp increase in scammer telephone calls to the
> > > number on the listing. I had to abandon my domain .us registration
> > > and assign the name, address and phone number to one in Reykjavík.
> > > The scammer calls stopped after about a week.
> > > -gbk
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2026, 10:21 PM Russell Senior <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I mentioned this at the PLUG meeting last week, but I will mention
> > >> it here as well.
> > >>
> > >> Through a series of shenanigans, we have recently come into the
> > >> "possession" (or delegation, if you prefer) of the domain name:
> > >> linux.portland.or.us.
> > >>
> > >> DNS is configured, the letsencrypt certificate is configured, and
> > >> the website is configured to use either:
> > >>
> > >>     pdxlinux.org
> > >>     www.pdxlinux.org
> > >>     linux.portland.or.us
> > >>     www.linux.portland.or.us
> > >>
> > >> And, at least for me, it seems to work. This is intended for now,
> > >> to be a fun experiment. Email is not configured for the new domain
> yet.
> > >>
> > >> Let me know if you notice anything wonky.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Russell Senior
> > >> PLUG Volunteer
> > >> [email protected]
> > >>
> >
> >
>
>

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