can everyone pls take this conversation to your DMs or somewhere else other
than here. pls!

On Thu, Jun 11, 2026 at 11:06 AM Tomas Kuchta <[email protected]>
wrote:

> That is heluva lot of assumptions you make Ted.
>
> No idea what minow or whale or .... is in respect to whois report. I asked
> AI to explain your long post - it sugested that it is a gang
> language/slang. Hence my comment.
>
> -T
>
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2026, 10:31 Ted Mittelstaedt <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > That's OK, since unless you know what a whois listing is - like George
> was
> > writing about - then none of it is applicable to you.  And you won't know
> > what a whois listing is unless you have registered a domain name - which
> > most people never do.  It's all just part of the arcania of the DNS
> system
> > on the Internet.
> >
> > Ted
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PLUG <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tomas Kuchta
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2026 5:33 PM
> > To: Portland Linux/Unix Group <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [PLUG] supplemental domain name
> >
> > I am reading your advise Ted - I must amit that I have no f.... idea what
> > you are talking about.
> >
> > Perhaps I am not from the same gang to get your references and
> > abbreviations.
> >
> > Just saying
> > -T
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 10, 2026, 11:32 Ted Mittelstaedt <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > At risk of SOUNDING insulting - which I am not - I'm being truthful -
> > > and the truth is hard for some people - and I don't apologize for that
> > > - this is only a problem for people who are amateurish enough to put a
> > > cell phone or other personal telephone number on a domain name listing.
> > >
> > > I've had my real contact info - including telephone number - on
> > > Portlandia-it.com ever since it was registered.  The phone goes to my
> > > Asterisk server which has the usual voice response unit  (press 1 for
> > > X press 2 for Y, etc.)
> > >
> > > No problems whatsoever with spam calls.
> > >
> > > If you are a personal individual setting up a domain name then that is
> > > why the privacy stuff was created and your contact info is going to be
> "
> > > [email protected]" with a phone number of 8675309 and
> > > anyone seeing that is going to know what you are.  Nothing wrong with
> > that.
> > >
> > > The people with the complaints are the people who are individuals, and
> > > small, who are trying to pass themselves off as being something they
> > > are not.
> > >
> > > The problem isn't putting your real contact info on your whois record.
> > > That is something you MUST do to pass yourself off as "looking like a
> > > bigger company" if that is what your game is.   The problem is if you
> > are a
> > > minnow pretending to be a whale - you need to go whole-hog and get the
> > > PBX with the VRU and all the rest of it.
> > >
> > > That's what I did.  And what I ended up getting sometimes was contacts
> > > from would-be clients who were the ones looking for the larger whales
> > > with the bureaucracy's that entire purpose of existence is to bow to
> > > them and jack up their self esteem.  They didn't want to hear the
> > > truth about how technically impossible their idiotic demands were,
> > > either, when I told it to them.  That was fun, for a while.  Then it
> > sort of got boring.
> > >
> > > It never ceases to amaze me how some people will pay 3x the money for
> > > the same service they can get from a sole proprietorship as from a
> > > larger regional organization just so they won't be "fired as a
> > > customer" from the larger organization when they start acting like
> jerks.
> > >
> > > PLUG is a minnow.  That's not bad.  Minnows can do what the F they
> > > want, and say what the F they want to anyone they want (even when the
> > > truth is
> > > inconvenient) and minnows don't have to pet and stroke people and be
> > > politically correct so someone's nose does not go out of joint.
> > > Therefore things will be easier for everyone to do what minnows do and
> > > use the proxies and their 1-800-NOT-HEAR phone numbers on
> registrations.
> > >
> > > It's not like they can't go to the website and send an email!
> > >
> > > Ted
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: PLUG <[email protected]> On Behalf Of George
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2026 12:21 AM
> > > To: Portland Linux/Unix Group <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: Re: [PLUG] supplemental domain name
> > >
> > > Oh good. Pass that info around. It happened immediately. Scammers
> > > scrape the db for names with address and phone numbers. -gbk
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2026, 12:18 AM Russell Senior <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > "whois linux.portland.or.us" has no data.
> > > >
> > > > "whois portland.or.us" leads to the org that delegated linux to us.
> > > >
> > > > On 6/10/26 00:12, George wrote:
> > > > > Uh oh. .us does not allow for an anonymous whois identity listing.
> > > > > You'll find a sharp increase in scammer telephone calls to the
> > > > > number on the listing. I had to abandon my domain .us registration
> > > > > and assign the name, address and phone number to one in Reykjavík.
> > > > > The scammer calls stopped after about a week.
> > > > > -gbk
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2026, 10:21 PM Russell Senior
> > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> I mentioned this at the PLUG meeting last week, but I will
> > > > >> mention it here as well.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Through a series of shenanigans, we have recently come into the
> > > > >> "possession" (or delegation, if you prefer) of the domain name:
> > > > >> linux.portland.or.us.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> DNS is configured, the letsencrypt certificate is configured, and
> > > > >> the website is configured to use either:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>     pdxlinux.org
> > > > >>     www.pdxlinux.org
> > > > >>     linux.portland.or.us
> > > > >>     www.linux.portland.or.us
> > > > >>
> > > > >> And, at least for me, it seems to work. This is intended for now,
> > > > >> to be a fun experiment. Email is not configured for the new
> > > > >> domain
> > > yet.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Let me know if you notice anything wonky.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Russell Senior
> > > > >> PLUG Volunteer
> > > > >> [email protected]
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

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