That is heluva lot of assumptions you make Ted.

No idea what minow or whale or .... is in respect to whois report. I asked
AI to explain your long post - it sugested that it is a gang
language/slang. Hence my comment.

-T

On Thu, Jun 11, 2026, 10:31 Ted Mittelstaedt <[email protected]> wrote:

> That's OK, since unless you know what a whois listing is - like George was
> writing about - then none of it is applicable to you.  And you won't know
> what a whois listing is unless you have registered a domain name - which
> most people never do.  It's all just part of the arcania of the DNS system
> on the Internet.
>
> Ted
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PLUG <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tomas Kuchta
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2026 5:33 PM
> To: Portland Linux/Unix Group <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] supplemental domain name
>
> I am reading your advise Ted - I must amit that I have no f.... idea what
> you are talking about.
>
> Perhaps I am not from the same gang to get your references and
> abbreviations.
>
> Just saying
> -T
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2026, 11:32 Ted Mittelstaedt <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > At risk of SOUNDING insulting - which I am not - I'm being truthful -
> > and the truth is hard for some people - and I don't apologize for that
> > - this is only a problem for people who are amateurish enough to put a
> > cell phone or other personal telephone number on a domain name listing.
> >
> > I've had my real contact info - including telephone number - on
> > Portlandia-it.com ever since it was registered.  The phone goes to my
> > Asterisk server which has the usual voice response unit  (press 1 for
> > X press 2 for Y, etc.)
> >
> > No problems whatsoever with spam calls.
> >
> > If you are a personal individual setting up a domain name then that is
> > why the privacy stuff was created and your contact info is going to be "
> > [email protected]" with a phone number of 8675309 and
> > anyone seeing that is going to know what you are.  Nothing wrong with
> that.
> >
> > The people with the complaints are the people who are individuals, and
> > small, who are trying to pass themselves off as being something they
> > are not.
> >
> > The problem isn't putting your real contact info on your whois record.
> > That is something you MUST do to pass yourself off as "looking like a
> > bigger company" if that is what your game is.   The problem is if you
> are a
> > minnow pretending to be a whale - you need to go whole-hog and get the
> > PBX with the VRU and all the rest of it.
> >
> > That's what I did.  And what I ended up getting sometimes was contacts
> > from would-be clients who were the ones looking for the larger whales
> > with the bureaucracy's that entire purpose of existence is to bow to
> > them and jack up their self esteem.  They didn't want to hear the
> > truth about how technically impossible their idiotic demands were,
> > either, when I told it to them.  That was fun, for a while.  Then it
> sort of got boring.
> >
> > It never ceases to amaze me how some people will pay 3x the money for
> > the same service they can get from a sole proprietorship as from a
> > larger regional organization just so they won't be "fired as a
> > customer" from the larger organization when they start acting like jerks.
> >
> > PLUG is a minnow.  That's not bad.  Minnows can do what the F they
> > want, and say what the F they want to anyone they want (even when the
> > truth is
> > inconvenient) and minnows don't have to pet and stroke people and be
> > politically correct so someone's nose does not go out of joint.
> > Therefore things will be easier for everyone to do what minnows do and
> > use the proxies and their 1-800-NOT-HEAR phone numbers on registrations.
> >
> > It's not like they can't go to the website and send an email!
> >
> > Ted
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PLUG <[email protected]> On Behalf Of George
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2026 12:21 AM
> > To: Portland Linux/Unix Group <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [PLUG] supplemental domain name
> >
> > Oh good. Pass that info around. It happened immediately. Scammers
> > scrape the db for names with address and phone numbers. -gbk
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 10, 2026, 12:18 AM Russell Senior <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > "whois linux.portland.or.us" has no data.
> > >
> > > "whois portland.or.us" leads to the org that delegated linux to us.
> > >
> > > On 6/10/26 00:12, George wrote:
> > > > Uh oh. .us does not allow for an anonymous whois identity listing.
> > > > You'll find a sharp increase in scammer telephone calls to the
> > > > number on the listing. I had to abandon my domain .us registration
> > > > and assign the name, address and phone number to one in Reykjavík.
> > > > The scammer calls stopped after about a week.
> > > > -gbk
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2026, 10:21 PM Russell Senior
> > > > <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I mentioned this at the PLUG meeting last week, but I will
> > > >> mention it here as well.
> > > >>
> > > >> Through a series of shenanigans, we have recently come into the
> > > >> "possession" (or delegation, if you prefer) of the domain name:
> > > >> linux.portland.or.us.
> > > >>
> > > >> DNS is configured, the letsencrypt certificate is configured, and
> > > >> the website is configured to use either:
> > > >>
> > > >>     pdxlinux.org
> > > >>     www.pdxlinux.org
> > > >>     linux.portland.or.us
> > > >>     www.linux.portland.or.us
> > > >>
> > > >> And, at least for me, it seems to work. This is intended for now,
> > > >> to be a fun experiment. Email is not configured for the new
> > > >> domain
> > yet.
> > > >>
> > > >> Let me know if you notice anything wonky.
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Russell Senior
> > > >> PLUG Volunteer
> > > >> [email protected]
> > > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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